On no fewer than three separate occasions I’ve been accused of propagating “Russian talking points” when I make verifiable, factual statements about the war in Ukraine. Three different people, three different occasions, but they all repeat the same shit.
Where does this come from? Is this Rachel Maddow lib slop, or something more widespread? I have never once heard this phrase used in any media that I consume, only as a thought-and-conversation terminating “rebuttal” and a way to avoid engaging with the actual substance of what I am saying about the war.
The irony of course is that “Russian talking points” is itself a talking point so it is, as usual, just projection 
It’s like some sort of propagandist got a list of all the inconvenient facts about Ukraine (nazis, lack of democracy, corruption, etc etc) and then just slapped a ‘RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS’ sticker onto them and delivered the package to libs all over the world.
But, seriously, WHERE DOES THIS ORIGINATE?


i’m actually just impressed you’ve only encountered it 3 times
Well I’ve been called a “russian bot” several times as well. I just meant the “talking points” thing specifically, word for word.
In my country
the pro-war propaganda has been running on overdrive since 2022 so there’s not much point in engaging people about the subject tbh. It’s a hopeless endeavour.
a good rejoinder to that is to mention what happened in canada on september 22, 2023, when all of canadian parliament applauded a member of the waffen SS
Yes but that can easily be explained away as a “Oopsie! Tee-hee-hee” - without of course reckoning with how hopelessly incompetent that makes our government.