On no fewer than three separate occasions I’ve been accused of propagating “Russian talking points” when I make verifiable, factual statements about the war in Ukraine. Three different people, three different occasions, but they all repeat the same shit.

Where does this come from? Is this Rachel Maddow lib slop, or something more widespread? I have never once heard this phrase used in any media that I consume, only as a thought-and-conversation terminating “rebuttal” and a way to avoid engaging with the actual substance of what I am saying about the war.

The irony of course is that “Russian talking points” is itself a talking point so it is, as usual, just projection projection

It’s like some sort of propagandist got a list of all the inconvenient facts about Ukraine (nazis, lack of democracy, corruption, etc etc) and then just slapped a ‘RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS’ sticker onto them and delivered the package to libs all over the world.

But, seriously, WHERE DOES THIS ORIGINATE?

  • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    26 days ago

    A year ago I was told by someone close to me that what I was saying sounded like “Kremlin talking points,” so I asked them if they had ever read/heard a statement from the Kremlin on Ukraine (beyond just a single phrase, perhaps), such that they recognized what I said in what they had direct (in-translation) knowledge of the Kremlin saying, to which they replied “no.”

    I don’t remember exactly what I was talking about, though. It was in the general direction of explaining why Russia would view the situation with Ukraine as an existential threat, so probably something about not wanting NATO nukes right on their western border