On no fewer than three separate occasions I’ve been accused of propagating “Russian talking points” when I make verifiable, factual statements about the war in Ukraine. Three different people, three different occasions, but they all repeat the same shit.

Where does this come from? Is this Rachel Maddow lib slop, or something more widespread? I have never once heard this phrase used in any media that I consume, only as a thought-and-conversation terminating “rebuttal” and a way to avoid engaging with the actual substance of what I am saying about the war.

The irony of course is that “Russian talking points” is itself a talking point so it is, as usual, just projection projection

It’s like some sort of propagandist got a list of all the inconvenient facts about Ukraine (nazis, lack of democracy, corruption, etc etc) and then just slapped a ‘RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS’ sticker onto them and delivered the package to libs all over the world.

But, seriously, WHERE DOES THIS ORIGINATE?

  • batsforpeace [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    there’s also this soft implication there that you would be some sort of traitor to your country by presenting inconvenient facts like the death count in the ukrainian war on donbas before

    the funniest is when lib and conservative politicians in Poland go back and forth about who’s the bigger secret Putin agent, all their arguments are so fake because they go back to the obama reset era when everyone was just carrying out US orders to be more friendly to Russia

    on the flip side you have a bunch of pro russian telegram channels but I don’t think the average libs are aware of those, there’s also a bit of an alt media russia explainer cottage industry