On no fewer than three separate occasions I’ve been accused of propagating “Russian talking points” when I make verifiable, factual statements about the war in Ukraine. Three different people, three different occasions, but they all repeat the same shit.
Where does this come from? Is this Rachel Maddow lib slop, or something more widespread? I have never once heard this phrase used in any media that I consume, only as a thought-and-conversation terminating “rebuttal” and a way to avoid engaging with the actual substance of what I am saying about the war.
The irony of course is that “Russian talking points” is itself a talking point so it is, as usual, just projection 
It’s like some sort of propagandist got a list of all the inconvenient facts about Ukraine (nazis, lack of democracy, corruption, etc etc) and then just slapped a ‘RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS’ sticker onto them and delivered the package to libs all over the world.
But, seriously, WHERE DOES THIS ORIGINATE?


I had someone tell me in person like two years ago that Russia would have no missles in a week or two and that “taking the side of peace right now is what Putin wants”. I felt like I was losing my mind, so I just stopped engaging if it comes up. The libs in my life no longer even care though so it solved itself.
I’m sure they’re still telling themselves “HERE’S HOW UKRAINE CAN STILL WIN!!!1”