I learned about the Jeju Island Massacre today, and I’m annoyed that I’ve heard about the Tiananmen Square Massacre so many times but nothing about this. I want to read a book that details similar events overlooked by the Western mainstream.
I learned about the Jeju Island Massacre today, and I’m annoyed that I’ve heard about the Tiananmen Square Massacre so many times but nothing about this. I want to read a book that details similar events overlooked by the Western mainstream.
Amazing to me how ignorant people are about this event (actually known as the “June 4th Incident” to Chinese people) and yet how seriously they expect to be taken. If you show me the Tank Man photo without even knowing that it’s a still frame from a video, I will treat you like a small child smearing their food all over the place.
What does that look like in practice? I’ve had people say insane sinophobic shit in my presence recently but correcting it made me feel like I came across as a crackpot weirdo.
Depends how well you know someone. If it’s a stranger I would just call them a fucking weirdo for bringing it up, and if they’re concerned about government overreach maybe worry about their own government. A friend I would tell them they’re ignorant and they sound like a redditor.
I think you misunderstood, they were asking how to avoid coming across as a crackpot weirdo.
I think if someone you don’t know all that well starts going “tiny man square 1989” at you in a regular conversation, you wouldn’t be a weirdo for telling them that that’s odd and they should worry about their own government. Seriously, it’s actually weirdo behavior for people to even bring this up.
My friends would probably be embarrassed to be called redditors, so I stand by that one as well, but I don’t know your friends lol.
Sorry I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I thought you were using a silly and unreasonable example that would only happen online to quickly refer to a type of comment. Which the comrade up the thread just referred to as “sinophobic” in the question you were answering.
I agree it would be very silly for someone to pull up a photo of a decades old historical event in face to face conversation unless there was some special detail or something. Generally people don’t just carry old news clippings around in their wallets. Has it happened to you even once?
The irony is that only people who are sufficiently online would even know what you mean by that. A lot of people I know would be puzzled if I called them a redditor. maybe think they were being accused of being interested in bitcoin or pick up artists or something. Even most of the leftists wouldn’t understand your political implication because they do not spend much time shit posting due to being busy. If they are on reddit it’s in the skin care subs or something.
I’m referring to “Tiananmen” because the user you’re talking about was replying to my comment that was specifically about that incident. My original comment was exaggerated for a joke, obviously, it has a shining-eyes Mao emoji in it lol.
However, I have in fact had people bring up sinophobic shit to me in conversations (not specifically Tiananmen, it’s usually more general “Chinese are spying on me” shit or some Hong Kong nonsense), and I have in fact told them that the Chinese government isn’t concerned with us and they should worry about our own government which is trampling our rights constantly. I also do have friends who would understand what being called a “redditor” means in this context, and I obviously wouldn’t say that to someone who doesn’t because that would be ridiculous.
When someone says sinophobic shit, I stand by the response of “it’s weird to be so fixated on China, you should probably worry about our own country” instead of trying to point-by-point debunk whatever ridiculous propaganda they’ve dreamed up. People are actually just being massive racist weirdos with the China obsession, I really don’t understand how it makes me a “crackpot weirdo” to point that out to them.
Depends on what they said, but the most default option imo is just asking people where they got information from.