That such iconography could circulate for years within the US military and diplomatic-security apparatus underscores what the World Socialist Web Site reported six years ago in “Neo-Nazi networks exposed across US military”: fascist and white-supremacist currents have been cultivated inside the armed forces.
Bro, Bernie, people wearing that symbol killed members of your family
The power of Amerikkka is unlimited, it can even turn a Jewish “leftist” (succdem lmao) into Blackshirt Bernie SSanderSS.
It’s literally the symbol of the SS
American leftists be like
Social democrats love their Friekorps.
Why are people surprised by this?
I’m more surprised by the fact that people doing the same shit here isn’t a bannable offense.
Apparently American exceptionalism also means being an exception to the moral taint of being a career, multi decade brownshirt and we must forgive them and foster leadership upon them to avoid “leftist” infighting.
Edit: Also what the fuck is with the constant framing that the tattoo is worse that the genocide footsoldier thing I’ve been seeing? I didn’t realize our problem with fascists was their iconographic.
There are people here defending the Blackwater Totenkopf guy?
Yeah, it’s fucking bizarre
Edit: Also what the fuck is with the constant framing that the tattoo is worse that the genocide footsoldier thing I’ve been seeing? I didn’t realize our problem with fascists was their iconographic.
100% agreed, but you’re even more likely to end up in a struggle session by saying “unrepentant war criminal bad” than “unrepentant nazi tattoo guy bad”.
I do think there is one valid difference (playing devil’s advocate), which is that a lot of amerikkkans are unrepentant genocidal footsoldiers, but only relatively few of those open their eyes and embrace fascism openly enough to tattoo an actual totenkopf on their chests. Materially, participating in war is worse, but psychologically the tattoo is an indicator of much worse ideology than that of the average soldier.
I hated Platner already for being a proud amerikkkan soldier, the tattoo just confirms that I was right to. US soldiers can be comrades, but step 0 is regretting it, which is why so few of them are. They’re (most of them) too used to being thanked to ever consider that the obvious wrong thing they did might have been bad.
Because the liberalism hasn’t been purged out of the American left, yet.
I wrote this comment the other day saying that the American left is not even at step one yet, they are effectively at step zero.
They haven’t done the most basic class analysis to figure out who are their friends, who are their enemies yet. That’s why you get so much confusion.
Theory is absolutely critical in that it provides a framework to help you identify the primary contradictions and formulate a strategy to achieve your political goals. Since it is impossible to predict the future of a complex world, a theoretical framework is the best tool you can employ to help you in this process:
Who are our enemies? Who are our friends? This is a question of the first importance for the revolution. The basic reason why all previous revolutionary struggles in China achieved so little was their failure to unite with real friends in order to attack real enemies. A revolutionary party is the guide of the masses, and no revolution ever succeeds when the revolutionary party leads them astray. To ensure that we will definitely achieve success in our revolution and will not lead the masses astray, we must pay attention to uniting with our real friends in order to attack our real enemies. To distinguish real friends from real enemies, we must make a general analysis of the economic status of the various classes in Chinese society and of their respective attitudes towards the revolution.
It often feels like we’re not even at step zero. besides tiny contingents people(I say relatively) Many I’ve seen don’t engage or outright rebuke theory because of low literacy, mental illness, poor quality of life making reading hard, etc. etc. Not to say those don’t inhibit the ability to read and consume theory however most of those things apply to every person I’ve known who has read theory!
The “left” has embraced the anti-intellectualism that is so often slung at the right and merely posits ourselves as intellectual having absorbed nothing but the knowledge of what our institutions tell us and our experience shows us.
Hell! I’ve seen people try throwing left-wing communism as a brick against this not realizing they’re those siding with the bandits for a share of the loot, they are the very ones siding with their own bourgeois against the international working class! (Generously assuming they read more than 5-pages of the book).
This generally is due to the main mass of the “left” here being liberals fleeing towards nominal leftism in times of panic, I dismiss those since they also return to “brunch” the moment the fascistic nature of the state begins to appear less overt. But some of the people I’ve seen saying these things and behaving this way have been “leftists” longer than I’ve been potty trained, ignoring this analysis for longer than I’ve been able to read! That is the part that frustrates me.
I agree with you here, though. It doesn’t help that from what I’ve seen, much of the left is very white and are not the most marginalized sections of society. Also, there has yet to be a purging of the contempt for those same marginalized in many cases. Some of the same people glorifying the brugereich’s greatest soldier also think every working class reactionary needs to be eliminated.
There isn’t just an incoherence of the situation: for many, they still haven’t found coherence in ideology. It’s many of the same failings of white unionism and previous organizing attempts here.
Many I’ve seen don’t engage or outright rebuke theory because of low literacy, mental illness, poor quality of life making reading hard, etc. etc.
Vietnamese and Chinese peasants (just two of many examples) were able to learn theory while being murdered by fascist war criminals, no amerikkkan has an excuse.
I have another comment making fun of that here: https://hexbear.net/comment/6611507
Don’t you see? We need better conditions to be able to properly organize!
Like the great conditions that were in Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba…
Wait a damn minute…
These are people in the imperial core. IDK how to reorient them but we need to have some patience.
They show far less patience to the masses than I withheld from them.
My frustration is the blatant hypocrisy here on site In the past week I’ve seen many cases of people suddenly swapping tone on genocide and acting like this is bluesky and yet we have an issue an engage in struggle session when those outside the core say we’re flippant and untrustworthy?
And frankly I’m unsure how much patience I should even show from a solely selfish perspective. My comparison to white unionism wasn’t accidental or incidental, I’m a Black guy that knows this will include me at some point like it has damn near every other time. Snarling Wolf vs. Smiling Fox. Those that act like this are either white chauvinists in nature or uncle toms. Both of those are circumstancial allies, at full optimism, but not friends.
It’s utterly outrageous and must be engaged with as such coming from fellow “leftists,” and it’s been non-stop genocide apologia for each and every bastard with a camera that offers to piss on the American masses to cool them off.
I thought I was losing my mind when people justified Zohran saying he’d work with Nazis and my brain twisted itself in knots to take it as them missing the fact that is the nature of the comment. But now we decided they need to be those who direct the masses!
This hasn’t been people saying, “well if they feel really bad maybe we can let them mop floors,” their looking at a multi decade long career of imperialism, followed by choosing to do it for a private company as well, and saying, “well you’re being quite overdramatic saying he can’t lead the people, have you considered he said he feels bad about it?”
I’ve personally moved on how to consider these these people over the last few months. Seeing what a viper pit the DSA became was a wake up call for me re: Zohran. I can’t trust NYC DSA folks. Or most DSA folks.
The frustrating thing is these people should be close to getting it, right? I mean if they aren’t true comrades, who are?
There’s a silver lining in that these ghouls have to pretend to support some mild populist reforms now to be popular. It’s that or mask-off Fascism. If this was 2006 I’m sure this Platber guy would be a neo-con.
Some of them maybe. Many are young and this is their first time experiencing this and no one reads the theory that tells them this is how it goes. Many have no interest and are perpetually too invested in this hell state to want to.
And I’m very unsure if this populism, will bring anything good. Fascism uses populism for its appeal too.
Gotta struggle none the less.
guys who suck reiterate that they suck
Love all the shitlibs whining about “he is not perfect but don’t split the vote!!! 😭😭😭😭”
Hexbear is anti-sectertarian and we need to realize the need for power over purity!
(/s)
Why do they have seemingly unflinching solidarity for this, but they get so fucking cagey about showing solidarity with dems to the left of them? Shows their priorities.
Salaries depend on it
Two Zionists endorse a candidate who’s had a Nazi tattoo for close to two decades, joined the military multiple times, and is still proud of his Blackwater past.
Libs can’t understand why fascists keep winning and then endorse fascists and help them win. And then they’ll immediately complain that somehow more fascists have won and then they’ll immediately go help more fascists win. It’s fascinating
Bernie Sanders shills for Israel and if Ro Khanna had an issue with fascism he probably wouldn’t be so chummy with the actual successful engine of global fascism Silicon Valley.
Ro Khanna has made pro-Zionist statements while pretending to be a critic of Israel, just like Bernie and other so called “progressives”. America’s moderate wing of fascism.
Not in the least bit surprised, but my only real knowledge of Ro Khanna comes from reading and writing about the evil that is Silicon Valley.
bernie “ok its a genocide but hamas is still bad for fighting back” sanders
or whatever
with democrats like these, who needs
republicansnazis?When a country’s foundations are based on fascism and white supremacy, I guess one shouldn’t be surprised their “progressives” have no problem with nazism.
WSWS on Hexbear? What timeline is this? /hj
Weird Sex Website has some good articles occasionally, in between defending rich and powerful men accused of sexual assault
wait what did the trots do now?
i think they posted some anti Me Too stuff
Don’t google WSWS Roman Polanski, worst mistake of my life
i hope someone was fired and beaten with a sack of door knobs for that
i hope someone was fired and beaten with a sack of door knobs for that
Bold to assume that the people at WSWS ever decided that it was problematic.
Death to Amerikkka.
