If their beliefs are “you are subhuman, we need to kill you” they are welcome to change their beliefs. Or I will kill them. That is self defense. Get the fuck outta here with your fake morality
Yeah see because oppressors get to systemically starve people, manufacture crisises to sow mental health issues, deop bastions of pollution in your neighbors so you die to cancers and other health issues that arise, impoverish you so that you can’t afford to see anyone that can help any conditions that they helped cause to prevent your untimely death. The only moral response is to get on your knees and beg like a dog and deny yourself even a scrap of dignity praying they don’t continue to murder you and your loved ones in the dozens of ways that are socially acceptable.
Because fighting back is mean and makes you just as bad, and begging for mercy is the only moral response to a boot on your neck.
Edit: Do you condemn the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and the violence they committed against Nazis?
You’re cornered, nowhere to run, nobody will answer your call. The person approaching you can’t be reasoned with nor frightened away. Its kill or be killed, what do you do?
so its more justied to let a hate group who chose to believe in a genocidal ideology murder oneself or one’s “fellow human beings” for hateful, bigoted reasons rather than to pursue violent self defense?
Murder is defined as an unlawful premeditated killing. Are you saying that the oppressed shouldn’t defend themselves with violence from an oppressive force which wants to murder them in a kill-or-be-killed scenario because it would be “unlawful” to do so?
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The oppressed have a right to defend themselves.
murder is not defense
You’re exactly right!
When people want to kill your for immutable characteristics of your person, it is self defense to kill them first. It is no longer “murder”.
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If their beliefs are “you are subhuman, we need to kill you” they are welcome to change their beliefs. Or I will kill them. That is self defense. Get the fuck outta here with your fake morality
Okay, oppressor.
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social murder is still murder and you’d have us lay down and die
Yeah see because oppressors get to systemically starve people, manufacture crisises to sow mental health issues, deop bastions of pollution in your neighbors so you die to cancers and other health issues that arise, impoverish you so that you can’t afford to see anyone that can help any conditions that they helped cause to prevent your untimely death. The only moral response is to get on your knees and beg like a dog and deny yourself even a scrap of dignity praying they don’t continue to murder you and your loved ones in the dozens of ways that are socially acceptable.
Because fighting back is mean and makes you just as bad, and begging for mercy is the only moral response to a boot on your neck.
Edit: Do you condemn the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising and the violence they committed against Nazis?
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dang it I missed it, now I’ll never know what I could’ve dunked with
Killing someone who is in the act of trying to kill you is
Murdering hitler would be an act of defense holy shit dude
there’s no killing of someone who died decades ago
I’m saying you shouldn’t murder people whom are currently alive
So killing Hitler is bad? Even if he’s in a mecha suit and trying to kill you?
I won my game of WOlfenstein by debating Hitler in the marketplace of ideas
Amazing how that cheat code went hidden for 20+ years.
it would be extremely funny if this was the gg/suicide command
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now THAT would be an amazing video game
I mean videogames are one thing, lol. I’m saying not to murder humans whom are currently alive.
So if someone was approaching you with a knife with the intent to kill you and you had a gun, you’d just let them kill you?
no, i d run and call for help
You’re cornered, nowhere to run, nobody will answer your call. The person approaching you can’t be reasoned with nor frightened away. Its kill or be killed, what do you do?
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Killing nazis is the ultimate act of defense, there is literally no act of violence more justified than ending the threat of omnicdal maniacs
there are many acts more justied, like respecting the life of your fellow human beings
so its more justied to let a hate group who chose to believe in a genocidal ideology murder oneself or one’s “fellow human beings” for hateful, bigoted reasons rather than to pursue violent self defense?
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And what do you think saving them from murder is?
Good point, BJ should’ve just protested the Nazis in the police-marked protest zone with a sign featuring a zinger
to prevent the rise of Hitler and suppress the spread of fascism?
Murder is defined as an unlawful premeditated killing. Are you saying that the oppressed shouldn’t defend themselves with violence from an oppressive force which wants to murder them in a kill-or-be-killed scenario because it would be “unlawful” to do so?