The directors not going to like this
“No networked computers!” Colonial fleet high command standing orders
Cylons hate this little trick.
I asked computer if I should read the article, it said no. Am I in an abusive relationship?
That is ridiculous, clearly. I’ll use mainstream search engine, tailor made to my needs, to make sure it cannot happen
That’s why board executives and business are so excited about it
They can finally get rid of McKinsey and blame it on cheaper and faster trendy butthole logo of the month.
It’s not my fault
I was just following ordersIt’s just company policyIt’s just a misstep in the algorithm
I’m sorry the computer said layoffs so… Get fucked.
Ai says you’re not a citizen. Deported.
I generally agree.
Imagine however, that a machine objectively makes the better decisions than any person. Should we then still trust the humans decision just to have someone who is accountable?
What is the worth of having someone who is accountable anyway? Isn’t accountability just an incentive for humans to not just fuck things up? It’s also nice for pointing fingers if things go bad - but is there actually any value in that?
Additionally: there is always a person who either made the machine or deployed the machine. IMO the people who deploy a machine and decide that this machine will now be making decisions should be accountable for those actions.
Imagine however, that a machine
That’s hypothetical. In the real world, in the human society, the humans who are part of corporations and receiving profits by making/selling these computers must also bear the responsibility.
Tbf that leads to the problem of:
Company/Individual makes program that is in no way meant for making management decision.
Someone else comes and deploys that program to make management decisions.
The ones that made that program couldn’t stop the ones that deployed it from deploying it.
Even if the maker aimed to make a decision-making program, and marketed it as so. Whoever deployed it is ultimately the responsible for it. As long as the maker doesn’t fake tests or certifications of course, I’m sure that would violate many laws.
The premise is that a computer must never make a management decision. Making a program capable of management decisons already failed. The deployment and use of that program to that end is already built upon that failure.
I believe those who deploy the machines should be responsible in the first place. The corporations who make/sell those machines should be accountable if they deceptively and intentionally program those machines to act maliciously or in somebody else’s interest.
A complete one-eighty nowadays…“As a highly paid “business” exec I have no ideas…computer, tell me what to do.”
That’s the neat thing, you can deny accountability by blaming the computer’s decision
A COMPUTER CAN NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST
NEVERMAKEAMANAGEMENT DECISIONs
Since when are managers held accountable? Is this new?
You know “accountability”, it’s when an executive fucks up and gets to retire early with a multimillion dollar golden parachute.
Executives today:
This means if we put AI somewhere in our decision making, we can no longer be held accountable.
Isn’t that exactly why they do use them for management decisions?
Yup!
“I’m sorry but your contact is terminated because our management software designated your position as redundant and unnecessary. It wasn’t our decision to let you go, but it was our decision to begin using that software and it was our decision to program it to try to fire as many employees as possible, but it’s not our decision and therefore we can’t be held responsible. Goodbye.”
The same argument for cartels. “We didn’t all increase our prices to the exact same amount, we just paid a consulting company to tell us which price we should use. Of course our competitors used the exact same company, but that’s just a coincidence”.
The computer can’t be held accountable, but the programmer and operator can.
I could go on a whole thing about mission rules and command decisions here, but I’m sick of typing for the day.
So when is Musk getting held accountable for making a literal US funded Nazi waifu bot
When the humans win the class war against the lizards.
Lol what? I’m so out of the loop
TBF Management can barely make any management decisions either…
are are rarely held accountable.
This endless separation into “managers” and “not managers” is so unproductive. Everyone manages something. That’s why you’re employed.
Sounds like something a manager would say. Some of us produce, create value through our labor, while some sit their fat asses at a desk and only grace the production floor to make everybody’s day just a little more difficult. So you just get on back up there to the big house and let us handle things out here where you can’t hack it.
Everyone manages something.
Most workers manage something and create value. Managers are only managing, remove them and nothing changes - usually things get more optimized, actually.
I manage to get out of bed.
Barely.
As a US citizen, this logic need to be applied to corperations. The C_Os make all the decisions for the company, the Campany should not be held as responsible for the shitty actions of its Board. The Board should be held accountable for the companies actions be required to served by all the C_Os. I say served, I mean fines and prison time ,in all cases, as a fine is paid personally by the person and time is served aslo bu the person.
I know fine are just a temporary for “legal fo .a price” fine should be paid to hut them so Retirement accounts are taken, future earning are taken, income from salary+bonus at time of infraction are taken, and close loops of off shore accounts
Agreed except you better not touch my extremely meager retirement account for some shit the CEO did. I will go full uno bomber.
Thats where the legislation can put the lawyer talk in to address it is the personal accounts of the C_Os
Managers aren’t being held accountable for their management decisions either.
“Oh, I sacked our entire workforce and sold all the company assets, so the figures will look amazing this month.”
<one month later>
“Oh, the figures are down this month, a golden handshake!? Thank you very much.”
Most industries management fails upward. Definitely true in Pharma.
There are CEOs with a 20 year string of development failures, but they bring “vast experience”.
It depends, though.
There are cases where parts of a struggling company is worth less than the sum of its parts. At that point, the fiscally prudent option is to sell it off, either in one piece or multiple pieces. There are plenty of cases in American corporate history where the best option is to cut losses and leave a market.
That being said, I’m surprised that private equity is still allowed to be a thing given the massive disparity shown in how a lot of financial disparity in how a lot of private equity companies run their companies against their fiduciary responsibilities to their companies’ stockholders and bondholders.
