• Che Banana@beehaw.org
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    12 days ago

    EU leadership really needs to figure out that’s it’s damned if you do, damned if you don’t with this shit bag…they might as well just do whatever the fuck they want and ignore him until he died.

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      11 days ago

      Right! Just do what’s what you need to do for the EU, and when he throws a hissy fit, hand him a gold bauble while telling him that he’s really great and that what you did was for him and it was what he really what he wanted all along. He’s our most gaslightable president ever. If the Saudis and Putin can do it, why can’t y’all?

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    11 days ago

    Only five European leaders and three Latin American and Caribbean leaders have confirmed they will attend the meeting,

    Which countries?

    Together, the EU and CELAC represent 50 countries and 21% of global GDP.

    The low attendance is expected partly because of Washington’s increasingly aggressive stance in the region

    Doesn’t this kill EU’s international reputation as an independent global power?

    It’s even worse, from other sources:

    The leaders of the 27 EU member states and the 33 countries of the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (CELAC) will meet

    That’s 60 countries, not 50.

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      11 days ago

      Nothing weird happening though, according to colombia1,euronews & ap. I was curious myself, but basically many hot LatAm & EU heads of states cancelled for many reasons ( COP 30, Melissa, local national issues) and it had probably caused a domino effect. Kallas, Sanchez and Lula were there though. Not sure what Trump sanctions have to do with this, as no other source mention them. Couldn’t open the link so idk

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        11 days ago

        The crown jewel is the EU-Mercosur free trade deal, which has been 25 years in the making and is nearing the final stage.

        Lula surprised observers Wednesday by announcing that he would attend the summit even though Brazil was hosting the COP30 climate conference.

        divisions in the Western Hemisphere over the U.S. military operation targeting alleged drug-carrying vessels.

        This suggests an active Monroe Doctrine. Isn’t it weird that the EU accepts that? That undermines EU and CELAC souvereignity.

        If Brazil can attend, all COP30 reasons are excuses.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine

        Not sure what Trump sanctions have to do with this

        "sanctioned Colombian President Gustavo Petro. "

        He is organising the meeting so there are additional tensions.

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          "sanctioned Colombian President Gustavo Petro. "

          He is organising the meeting so there are additional tensions.

          Tnx. Seems Petro is quite controversial figure doing some great things, and also some werid stuff like supporting Maduro. Maduro isn’t liked at all in LatAm, Chavez was more popular though.

          I couldn’t find anything on the EU stance on the venezuela boat strikes by USA. But Trump is doing crazy Trump stuff, and his violence & killing is against international law.

          Venezula isn’t part of the Mercosur, so politically irrelevant to EU & Mercosur. The regime is a destabilising factor in LatAm. It’s also very sad for Venezuelans, great people, with great potential, but Maduro has to go first.

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            10 days ago

            But Trump is doing crazy Trump stuff

            The crazy part is that it works.

            Why does Maduro have to go? Shouldn’t a country be allowed to be socialist?

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              10 days ago

              You don’t know about the fact that Maduro has killed many Venezuelans, and caused a Venezuelan refugee crisis of 8 million people. So above all he’s a dictator, who has rigged elections. A socialist, imo, he is is not.

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                Argentina has just received $40 billion to vote for Trump’s favorit. If Venezuela doesn’t want to wait for a wall to appear, which other options would they have?

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                  Venuela should have a (self exiled?) democratic elected and internationally accepted President ( opposition chief Edmundo González.)But idk what real options Venezuela as a people have under a dictator.

                  With “wall to appear” you mean the Gringo army, perhaps or?

                  Ed: name president

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              The crazy part is that it works.

              From an ethical/philosophical pov I agree: Crazy A.F. And from a pov of groupthink and Power dynamics, bullies & assholes get away with a lot of stuff, until they hit “the wall” and crash. I hope sooner rather than later.