Last time I went to the aquarium there was a specialist on reef ecology talking about all the different species of animals on display and a woman in the group behind me loudly exclaimed “Wait, fish are animals?” so I’m going out on a limb and stating that I believe there’s a considerable amount of overlap between the smartest of their species and the dumbest of ours when it comes to intelligence.
Dumb humans survive and are taken care of, dumb octopi dont survive. Most animals dont have the luxury of keeping every mutation and variation viable for survival.
This is true. Many aquariums with octopuses have to do something similar.
I, for one, welcome our eight appendage overlords
Makes me think of Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky. 😀
We’re going on an adventure
I’ll never hear, or read, that phase the same again!
I love that series so damn much
Same, although I think the 1st book would have been better if it didn’t focus so much on the humans for at least the first half of the book.
Like I think it would have had more impact if we were guessing what was happening off planet instead of ‘seeing’ it.
If it was possible to start fire under water octopi would have tribal civilizations already.
Did you know that the correct pluralization is octopuses or octopoda, not octopi? This is because the -pus ending in octopus to es from the Greek word for foot, not prom latin.
Did you know that octopi has long been included in many dictionaries also?
Language is only half etymology and half vibes
Ya, but it sounds annoying because it’s incorrect.
The simpler explanation seems to be that the guard was eating the fish, and blamed the octopus when people noticed something was amiss.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c98qnyLLTPg
Apologies for the ear bleeding voice over. But it is a cool video showing an octopus opening a jar.
Well that makes more sense. Damn guard!
Octopus for President!! (more brains)
They literally couldn’t be worse than what we’ve got
Something smart enough to recgonize the people, what they mean, learn their schedule, and understand how to decieve them, is something that should not be kept in captivity for our amusement.
And especially should not be farmed or eaten alive for clicks on youtube. We have made significant progress as a society reducing the barbaric practice of eating shark-fin soup and other exotic animal products, and made great strides in ending torturing sea mammals in amusement parks. We have to add octopus to this list of things we now know better about.
Octopus have feelings and are higher animals with unique personalities and ways of experiencing the world. They are curious, they are intelligent, they dream and seem to show emotions in a variety of ways.
And our last common ancestor didn’t even have a backbone. This fact alone should amaze us and give us hope for the greater universe - that we can share so much with something so very distant from us gives hope that if we ever do contact aliens, we might share more than we think.
The octopus went back to it’s tank after getting a snack. That’s at least some indication the octopus likes living there.
You are assuming the octopus prefers living out in the wild where it could be eaten alive. Who are you to assume what an animal wants?
Are you currently living in some kind rectangular structure where you have easy access to regular meals? Why are you living in this way and assuming an octopus wouldn’t also prefer this? There’s nothing preventing you from leaving the rectangular structure you’re currently living in and going out into the wilds and fending for yourself to survive. Why don’t you do the thing you’re assuming the octopus wants to do?
Or it was too much of a gamble raw-dogging it in the outside.
All it did was take the ‘bait’ it was aware of and sneak back undetected. For all we know it might have been exploring, but in a hostile environment you wouldn’t venture far…
I mean the government stops you - at least in the USA. If they find you, no matter how ‘responsible’ you are being they will charge you/kick you off the land unless you “own” the land.
But “dumb” animals are fine? We even torture them because we think they taste cool.
Every animal can react to their environment, including avoiding predators. Not all of them do it perfectly, but it is a basic survival skill for mobile life forms.
In the wild an octopus often hides in a tight space to protect itself and wanders out to feed, then returns to their safe location afterwards. They avoid predators while doing so. Lots of animals will be less active when predators are out and about, or will be active during times where it is more difficult for the predators to hunt.
Yes, an octopus is a very clever animal but really we should stop killing them because we are absolutely crushing their populations.
The stories I here about Octopi make them sound more like an intelligent creature we don’t understand rather than “lots of creatures escape their cages to go hunting and then return before anyone notices. This is natural behavior for an animal.”
Yes, the mind of an octopus is unknowable, and it could be just acting on instinct. It could also have some measure of sentience, and there is no way to really know. As such maybe we should err on the side of caution and not keep them in little pens for us to gawk at.
I do agree we need to respect them a lot more and make a much stronger public message that they’re not food and certainly shouldn’t be tortured and treated as inhumanely as we routinely do.
Yes, the mind of an octopus is unknowable, and it could be just acting on instinct.
As someone who studied a lot of neurology, I could make a very strong argument that much of our behavior, no matter how well-reasoned we think it is, no matter how complex it is, is actually also just a very sophisticated system for facilitating our instinctual needs. The brain has a very real tendency to post-hoc justify our decisions and actions so much that we never notice it, but if you start to explore it, you will realize really quick that a lot of what we do and think we’re choosing to do, are just products of very basic wants.
This isn’t to diminish either them nor us, only to say that whatever is going inside that incredibly ancient brain of theirs, it’s still a lot like us and needs to be respected as such.
A lot of animals are capable of learning. More importantly they’re capable of feeling. They should not be exploited in the same way that octopi should not be exploited.
Quite right, they should be given badges and guns.
This octopus, let’s give him boots, send him to North Korea
Eight guns.
Four. They need the others to move around!
They can walk on guns.
There are many documented Octopus escape/returns. But some of these details could be new/exaggerated.
Ah, so an octopus is overqualified for the position of US President. Good to know.
My turd from this morning is overqualified. You set the lowest bar known to men.
The only actual requirement is to be 35, which…
… ew.
Few octopi live to the age of 35.
I’m not scared
Definitely not scared… 😳
T. Ocellus is too cute
If i was a multi Billionaire i would dedicate my vast wealth to building an Institute that breeds only the most intelligent octopi with each other.
They don’t live so long, so generations go by fast. I bet we could speedrun evolution if we just put our money where our tentacles are.
Their main issue is being antisocial jerks, they don’t co-operate so they can’t share knowledge and the females die careing for the eggs (which again they might not if they worked together) so they can’t pass anything onto their young either. The jerk part is they also eat eachother sometimes.
we could speedrun evolution if we just put our money where our tentacles are
Found the cephalopod.
If you want to read a book about super intelligent cephalopods Children of Ruin the second book of the Children of Time book is interesting.
I know that you mean well, but that is an extremely ‘Evil Billionaire’ thing to do
Perhaps, but one must consider BogeyTheSwear’s Cephalopod:
- It is inevitable that super-intelligent octopuses will evolve eventually.
- When they do evolve, they will inevitable consider humans to be delicious snacks.
- As intelligent beings, they will of course look kindly upon their creators - mythical or billionairical.
- Therefore, the only safe and rational course of action is to invest all of one’s energies into bringing forth these humanity-munchers with all due haste, so as to preserve oneself as a creator in their perfect eyes. Either working against their awakening or having nothing to do with it at all is ultimately condemning your bloodline for all eternity to be a nice little midnight snack.
or they turn on their creators when they learn the truth, starting a multi-thousands year long blood fued where they’re so dedicated to wiping out their “creators” they strip themselves of all humanity/life just so they can continue the hunt
Ahahaha c’mon, what would the odds of that be…?
Anyway, I hope you’re ready to fund the Cephalopod Enrichment Programme because no other choice is permissible.
Bogey’s basilisk?
Cephalopod. More legs, totally different really.
Bogey’s basilisk?
Edit: Stupid Jerboa, I thought it failed the first time.
Higher intelligence is a cost in evolution, so it doesn’t keep unless neccessary for survival.
So we just make it really dangerous to be dumb.
Octopus didn’t memorize shit. They saw fish and went to get them. Security guard don’t give a fuck about the fish tanks, they were at the gate all night.
Can confirm, have been a guard.
‘Rounds’ were check boxes on a piece of paper. TF do I care whether doors are secure, it’s not my department store.
Can rebut; was also a guard, briefly, first with rounds at a remote pulp mill, and then pit-lamping hobos at a construction site. Raccoons and bears and cougars – oh my!
octopi = 25.1327412287183
Approximately.
Welcome, fellow octopodes enthusiast.
An octopus can squeeze through a hole about the size of its eyeball and transform its body shape almost without limits.
crazy!
In the size of his eyeball isn’t correct at all, the limit is the size of his beak, the only solid part of an Octopus, but I think that he don’t like to squetch his eyeball if it isn’t needed.
