There hasn’t been any new news since around May. But that hasn’t stopped Imdb from churning out “articles” that are merely copy-and-pastes from many months old info like the article I posted.

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      The only action outside training I recall is the opening chapter where they are bounding over a technologically inferior civilization and absolutely leveling everything with flame throwers and tactical nukes, I don’t know how a film audience will see this as anything other than Iraq/Afghanistan but cool that it’s happening, or IDF bombing Gaza but presented as a good thing. And then at the end when they get to fight the bugs, which deviously send out their workers/ women & kid bugs as human shields - so if you are making a faithful adaptation you either have to show that as a good thing the humans kill them or directly say the humans are bad.

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        the opening chapter where they are bounding over a technologically inferior civilization and absolutely leveling everything with flame throwers and tactical nukes

        I remember it devoting as much time to like an explanation of how making the nukes have a time delay and a speaker system that counts down in the native language was a genius strategic idea that made them way more effective as terror weapons since it meant their victims had time to be scared and knew what was about to happen, as it did to the actual action happening.

        So much of the work is just Heinlein opining about the most galaxy brain shit, like the kind of stuff you’d expect from a kid raised on fashy anime except coming from an adult nerd in the 1950s.

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          I remember that now that you mention it and thanks, I hate it. Notes of Israeli “roof knocking” wafting up from the cesspits of fascist fantasy.

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      Even aside from the fascism, it’s just so…boring.

      I don’t know how you make a story about a space-faring human civilization with man portable nuclear weapons and powered armor ‘boring’ of all things, but he did.

      Actually I do, it’s because he made it some ‘realistic’ portrayal of military service so there’s basically no action, and lots of time for flashbacks to fascistic school lectures.

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        It really is boring, I gave it a reread a couple years back just to have read it with an adult set of eyes, it is a slog and the fascism is more apparent.

        Highly recommend Armor by John Steakley and The Forever War by Joe Haldeman if you want some conceptually similar books to SST that will actually leave you satisfied.

        I’d say Steakley delivers more power armored bug stomping action while still contemplating on the effects of conflict on those who participate and their societies, and IIRC the bugs are not mindless and do get some characterization discovered by the POV humans eventually.

        Haldeman also has great action and really goes further into the effect war has on removing soldiers from the life they knew before. He leans into FTL travel and time dilation and it’s a clear metaphor for that theme. There is also a big narrative payoff for the adversary species being an advanced civilization. Haldeman wrote a sequel The Forever Peace which is interesting but skippable IMHO. He also wrote a short story A Separate War about power armored soldiers fighting in LatAm and disgruntled vets trying to do direct action to bring a stop to the war, it’s cool but really getting away from the SST vibe at that point. It’s available in a sci-fi anthology that I haven’t honestly read the other stories in.

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        Yeah, I tried to read it back in middle school because I couldn’t go to see the movie (lousy R rating) and it’s so boring

        Gave up after 30 pages or so

        Apparently, Verhoeven had a similar experience, except he also found it morally disgusting

        But I was a little 12 year old shit head, so I didn’t have myself put together well