• hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    68·
    9 hours ago

    Skeptical about the screenshot. And rest of thread.

    I asked if he knew the color red, he said No, and I ended up having to google a picture of the color and show it to him.

    The teacher was unable to locate a red object in a kindergarten class?

    Out of classes of 20, over half are in early reading intervention groups. They can’t spell or write their names

    Isn’t that what school is for at this age? Surely its not assumed that the majority of children can spell before going to kindergarten at age 4 or 5.

    we’re supposed to have them reading writing full sentences…

    Here is a kindergarten writing curriculum I found: https://www.wpschools.org/cms/lib/NJ01001331/Centricity/Domain/4/K Writing.pdf By the end of November, expectations:

    Demonstrate command of the conventions of standard English capitalization, punctuation, and spelling when writing.

    A. Capitalize the first word in a sentence and the pronoun I.

    B. Recognize and name end punctuation.

    C. Write a letter or letters for most consonant and short-vowel sounds (phonemes).

    D. Spell simple words phonetically, drawing on knowledge of sound-letter relationships.

    If this is supposedly an inside baseball forum for people who are professional teachers, why are they not discussing the sorts of things which are reasonable goals? I would expect to see stuff about assessment tools/criteria, milestones etc.

    kindergartners coming in who are not toilet trained - so many that the district is now advising teachers to make a toilet training plan.

    I don’t believe that phones can cause parents to delay toilet training for years. What is the proposed mechanism for assuming such cost (diapers) and inconvenience (laundry and mess)? How do phones make that less annoying.

    I don’t buy that this could be ubiquitous among poor people or people who work long hours.

    • hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      3 hours ago

      But don’t you teaching toddlers writing is cultural, not natural or to be assumed? That’s why sesame street was made as an intervention to teach letters and other things. Not everyone is motivated or knowledgeable on how to teach literacy. Assuming parents are literate in any language much less English. Its November, kids have been in school for 2 months.

      And people’s names are not exactly equal to each other in difficulty. Some people have many names, or they are extremely long, complex, having clumsily romanized spellings, or unique among their peers. Or their name at home is completely different than name at school. Do you think its fair to expect everyone to pick it up at the same speed given diversity of home environments?

      I actually do think at the end of the day, it is the schools job and not the parents to teach writing. And to peek in on general development and offer support. I think phones could be substantially changing how all that is done but this particular post is as you say, bullshit. Somebody’s fantasy.

    • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
      15·
      6 hours ago

      Kids should know how to spell their name by age 4 and definitely by 5 barring some kind of learning disability. Typically kids go to kindergarten with some knowledge of letters and writing. They do not need to know how to write pretty much anything else besides their name though so the writing curriculum you pulled isn’t really applicable to just their names. Most kids are taught the letters and phonics of their names from a very early age and is the entry point into writing.

      edit to add: I agree tho this post is BS lol