Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1p48x0x/can_anyone_confirm_are_modern_students_really/
Turns out that capitalism in decay produces an environment which is actively harmful to human growth and flourishing. Who could have predicted that?
Being able to use menus and user interfaces is a bit different to being able to read and comprehend any amount of text. I have conversations with people online everyday where I’m like “this person didn’t actually understand what I wrote to them because their reading comprehension is so poor”. Being functional online does not mean being in any way capable.
not really? if you’re in some program that has a shit load of menus, you don’t know what 99% of that shit does. you just open the menu, look around for words you know and teach yourself what the program does that way. that’s how most people in my (millennial) generation learned how to use computers. we had some bullshit class in school that taught us copy/paste and the rest we figured out on our own. kids are born now knowing how to copy/paste, they can figure out menus and interfaces just fine. it’s older generations who are not able to comprehend menus and interfaces.
as far as your conversations with people online, that’s just anecdotal and also completely based on your own perception in your own brain. you don’t know if they comprehended it or not, maybe they just didn’t feel what you were saying, don’t agree with you and don’t care to put the effort in to tell you why. doesn’t necessarily mean their reading comprehension is low lmao
Yes really. There are a levels to comprehension. You can use UIs and menus with Lexical comprehension, that doesn’t mean you can read well. Ability to use an interface is not comprehension, you’re even admitting that yourself with your example? Just click around and learn what works, that’s not comprehension. That doesn’t mean a person has learned to read and comprehend, it just means they have specifically made themselves able to use that particular UI.
you can absolutely build comprehension by just clicking around and figuring out what works. me saying that isn’t “proving anything” lol. it’s not the be-all end-all but you can absolutely learn and comprehend by doing that. tons of people who are professional video and photo editors or whatever else taught themselves exactly like that. you’re taking what i said as “JUST click around til it works”. that’s not what i said. but that’s kind of how people figured out literally everything ever and the basis for all comprehension. they just started fucking around til they comprehended what output their input created. and again you don’t know what level of comprehension anybody you’re speaking to has. for all you know they think you have low comprehension.
i think we just disagree on this, that’s fine comrade.
That’s not reading comprehension. A person clicking around a bunch of menus can not read a piece of text and extract information from it.
This is a basic level 2 literacy question:
1 in 5 americans can’t answer this question correctly currently and literacy is getting worse in america over time, these kids stand no chance.
Level 4 literacy (what I would consider a proper reading comprehension ability) is described as:
Only 12% of americans currently have this reading comprehension level.