• LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    2 hours ago

    nothing to do with tradition or conservatism

    give an argument for parenthood by random people qualified only by being able to and consenting to sex with each other (who might not even want kids) that doesn’t boil down to “it’s nature/natural/tradition/the way it’s always been,” tell me how it’s an active good for society to essentially have children be raised by children being raised by children in an unbroken line of fucked up parental “mistakes” that could be avoided by not leaving parenting up to flimsy feel good wishy washy “oh we’re just born to be parents” bullshit

    some sort of personal issues that need to be addressed with your parents

    let me just ignore the like dozen comrades I’ve seen on here very vocally talk about their conservative brainrotted parents and their tribulations with them because it’s gotta be just me, every trans person on here whose parents view them in unspeakably evil terms are definitely benefitted by having such a close and interpersonal relationship with their parents. Of my 5 close coworkers in the back, 3 have similar severe issues (one has “dad left the family” issues) and the other two are old white men who I’m sure have similar issues on top of fucking up their own children with their own issues

    maybe instead of having a society who needs professional therapy for their fucked up parental relationships we should have professional parenting and skip the generation after generation after generation of trauma

    i love that parenting is such a difficult task and here you are saying “um no actually you need less training than a forklift driver and this is good actually, go to therapy”

    • godlessworm [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      3 hours ago

      for everything you’re typing, it basically boils down to “nobody should be allowed to be parents because i didn’t like mine and lots of people didn’t like theirs either”.

      ok. lots of people do like their parents, do have good relationships with them, and are love and taught well by them. lots of parents do put in the effort and time and care to raise someone and teach them

      yeah like i said this is something that should be worked out in therapy comrade.

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          2 hours ago

          lol that’s not idealism. just because you have a bad relationship with your parents doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be allowed to be parents. if you said this shit to someone from a loving family who respects and loves their parents and has those feelings reciprocated do you think they would think you’re saying anything worth considering?

          you also can’t take what is basically a eugenicist position and then say “but anybody who calls it eugenics is x y or z”.

          i notice a lot of “my personal problem is actually a problem with everybody else” here. with that being said, i guess this is a good time to disengage