• BabyTurtles [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    21 hours ago

    One person saying something that is an absurd lie does not mean everyone who says it is a liar. You know this. Do you not see this happen literally every day with anti-zionists? I sure do.

    Coopting right-wing reactionary language is unhelpful, no matter how right or justified you feel. At best you’ve muddied the waters, at worst the libs are now pointing at you saying, “look they talk just like Nazis”.

    On a deeper level, persecution complex is a Western/US issue, rooted in Christian Puritan values. Even for people who aren’t Christian, it’s subconsciously ingrained.

    Just let it go, stop feeling bad about yourself because people were not receptive to your message. Rewrite it into a better message. Anti-war, pro-socialism, pro-communism sentiment is on the rise. Don’t be like the Dems and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    When she says that, she explains that she was harassed, stalked and threatened in connection to her anti-war advocacy in the wake of 9/11

    Absolutely not okay that happened. Harassment and threats are never acceptable. And in hindsight, their anti-war stance aged like fine wine, as the same warhawks eager to invade Afghanistan and Iraq in 2001 pretend they knew it was a mistake the whole time in 2025. The tides turned and being anti-invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan is extremely popular today.

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      15 hours ago

      I was serious about thinking she is wrong headed in some respects and more specifically is somewhat reactionary in her wrong-headedness, because these ideas about how you’re always going to be unpopular and have the people against you and the people will be ungrateful when it turned out that you were right is all fucking bullshit from someone severely socially maladjusted who has let that corrupt their political perspective.

      But the specific part about being ruthlessly attacked for “speaking truth to power” is correct and justified and in no way inherently tied to reaction. It’s also a common phrase in progressive circles (in fact I hear it more from progressives).

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        13 hours ago

        But the specific part about being ruthlessly attacked for “speaking truth to power” is correct and justified and in no way inherently tied to reaction. It’s also a common phrase in progressive circles (in fact I hear it more from progressives).

        I have to say I do slightly envy you from living around mostly progressives because I’m telling you, when a Nazi finds out they’re hated for their beliefs, their immediate response is, “you hate me because I’m speaking the ‘truth’ and you can’t handle it”, and they take hate as validation for digging in deeper to their Nazi beliefs. The “truth” being, “race realism”, or whatever way they rebrand their shitter bigotry.

        You get the same thing from racist white Facebook Karens, “the lion does not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep”. It’s so common it’s like a corny meme.

        I’m also just way too aware of how racists and Nazis act online and it’s not a comfortable place to be either.

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          12 hours ago

          I’m completely aware of Nazis talking about speaking the truth, though also that’s something almost everyone does, but the specific phrase “speaking truth to power” is the progressive association I was talking about.

    • WokePalpatine [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      17 hours ago

      I think you have a small point about annoying lifestylist-leftists get off on making marxism, etc. seem like a countercultural undertaking and we’re so fucking cool and hard for doing it. Which is the worst sales pitch of all time to anyone else that isn’t a lifestylist as well.