Okay so banger insight I got from here:

material conditions reign supreme as the foundation of any meaningful program or political convo. This type of analysis cuts laserlike through vast clouds of fluffy, worthless, marketplace of ideas grift style vvvvibes-based “idealistic” baloney.

However.

Vibes, also, are a thing. Often enough vibes become material conditions. People fight, work, organize, sacrifice and die for Vibes. Non material elements can rally support around a material cause.

What are good ways to think about the relationship between material conditions and… idealism, pure “politics”, lofty rhetoric, untethered wishful thinking… vibes. I’m hoping some well-read comrade will bless us with thought or maybe a reading rec

I love you all lea-finger-guns

  • Keld [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    I feel like sometimes you guys have taken the idea of materialism and material conditions and turned it into something which it was never intended to be and which is not a useful heuristic. People don’t merely make choices out of material concerns, homo economicus is a liberal concept.

    As highlighted in the 18th brumaire over and over again. Humans make choices. Sometimes the right man makes a difference, often the wrong one does. But it must be understood in the context in which it happens. Or to boil it down.

    “Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already”

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              Your apparently total unfamiliarity with Half Life 2 through either firsthand experience or cultural osmosis, now a whole 21 years after the enduringly popular and influential video game first released, is a testament to the admirable amount of grass you touch, which we should all aspire to.

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                Also me when it comes to all the culturally unified moments in TV when everyone and their dogs were watching the same thing i.e the walking dead, breaking bad, uh that dragon show with the old guy that won’t write books, marvelslop, etc.

                I’m pretty much living on a completely separate circuit of social existence from America. It’s kinda lonely but the price paid is a mind that is uncorrupted by capitalism curry-space

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                  I’m pretty much living on a completely separate circuit of social existence from America.

                  Me when I reference a fucking MS Paint Movie Maker magical girl fan animation made by a ten year old in 2006 and literally seen by fewer than 2,000 people. The dictatorship of obscurophiles will reign supreme, our day will come.

                  …Although, truth be told, I have been taking some time to catch up on a few of the “culturally unified” popular things, because it turns out that a decent number of popular things are popular for a reason. Sometimes it’s because it’s lowest-common-denominator slop that happens to resonate with the anxieties of present circumstances, which is interesting in its own way; sometimes it’s because it’s genuinely good.

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                    Although, truth be told, I have been taking some time to catch up on a few of the “culturally unified” popular things,

                    Me when I keep saying “I should watch breaking bad”

                    Me when I reference a fucking MS Paint Movie Maker magical girl fan animation made by a ten year old in 2006 and literally seen by fewer than 2,000 people. The dictatorship of obscurophiles will reign supreme, our day will come.

                    I have faint memories of youth where I watched among the first YouTube creator made origional video series that ran for hundreds of episodes that I don’t remember anything about, only had handfuls of people watching them, and were cringe-edgy Japanese weeb tropes stuffed to the gills but it was kickass awesome because it was the first of its kind on the world wide web video distribution network at the time. I’m talking like this level of writing but stretched across multiple seasons