As with Mamdani in New York and Wilson in Seattle, the DSA-backed campaign of Rae Huang is a political trap.
  • UmmmCheckPlease [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    15·
    2 days ago

    Bit idea: not living in LA or Nyc, but participating in community support and working towards building international class consciousness and countering imperial propaganda in one’s backwater slough.

    We all know electorialism doesn’t mean much, but these are opportunities to counter co-opt the co-opting of revolutionary energy which electorialism seeks to defuse/diffuse. Forget the individual- but if they are successfully bringing up talking points which we can springboard from than we should be doing so.

    Bottom line: continue your ground work and keep pushing like you were going to anyway

  • StarkWolf [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    24·
    3 days ago

    Can’t say I’m optimistic this time. Surely this DSA member won’t immediately begin backpedaling their leftist stances and start working with zionists and defending the worst ghouls in the Democratic party as soon as they are elected, right? …Right?

    • comfy@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      Honestly, I think there’s a silver lining to people learning through experience even if you and I already know the answer, and I believe Bernie $anders being shafted in Democratic primaries, despite their clear popularity, was a catalyst for radicalizing lots of people nationwide.

  • KnilAdlez [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    14·
    3 days ago

    A lot of party poopers in the comments and while I don’t believe anything good has, will, or ever could come from Los Angeles, what other options are there? Are any communists parties running for this position? Just sit on your hands and wait for revolution?

    • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      13·
      2 days ago

      PSL are running 4 actually socialist candidates for state level positions. And please, not voting for democrats does not mean not doing anything. We’ve been through this in 2024.

      • KnilAdlez [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        2 days ago

        PSL are running 4 actually socialist candidates for state level positions.

        Are any of them running for the mayor of LA?

        And please, not voting for democrats does not mean not doing anything.

        I’m not saying it is, but shitting on a DSA member running for an election without a better alternative candidate doesn’t make sense to me.

        • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
          7·
          2 days ago

          Are any of them running for the mayor of LA?

          no

          I’m not saying it is, but shitting on a DSA member running for an election without a better alternative candidate doesn’t make sense to me.

          we will see if the DSA even endorses her (likely, but still). i think its fair to criticise candidates when they claim the socialist label. just because they say they are doesn’t mean they avoid accountability.

          • KnilAdlez [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            I suppose, but criticizing without an alternative just feels so defeatist. Maybe it’s just me, but it’s like shooting ourselves in the foot without having another to stand on.

            • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
              1·
              2 days ago

              criticizing without an alternative just feels so defeatist

              it is only true if your scope is limited to the mayoral election. there are plenty of things to do in other elections, and also outside elections.

              • KnilAdlez [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
                1·
                2 days ago

                No doubt, but also the mayoral race will have an immediate impact on many people’s lives. I think it’s fair to have it be one of many scopes one considers

                • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  2·
                  2 days ago

                  i dont disagree with you. everything has an immediate impact on peoples lives. the question to me is more of organisational capacity. does it make sense to support every DSA member / progressive democrat? or should more resources be spent building up the grassroots base of the party? Obviously both is ideal, but in organising you have to make choices. And I know that conditions in the US are what they are, but I am very against a conciliatory stance with the dems and more for running as an opposition party.

  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    19·
    3 days ago

    Imagine if the DSA becomes a real party.

    Imagine all of the excitement that would come with it and then also the incredible disappointment when it still cannot change the material conditions that it sets out to change anyway

  • comfy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    8·
    3 days ago

    wsws

    I immediately disregard any comment the Socialist Equality Party ultras say about other people or groups being non-left. I’m not even saying they’re right or wrong; their statements on the matter are simply worthless.

    ^ Their front page alone has 10 different mentions of “pseudo-left” right now. They’re obsessed with sectarianism.

    By the way, in some countries they’re banned from union strike actions after counterpicketing the strikers for not being pure enough. An infantile disorder.

    copypasta

    Well-spoken, comrade. The political and theoretical bankruptcy of the Grantites of Socialist Appeal, with their craven submission to petty bourgeois class forces under the guise of neo-Pabloite ‘entryism’, has been laid bare by their farcical second expulsion from the Labour Party.

    By contrast, the growing Rank and File Committee movement, despite increasingly desperate denial from the pseudo-left Pabloite revisionist renegades, is striking fear into the hearts of the global imperialist monopoly bourgeoisie. Global capitalism - now more than 80 years into its terminal death agony - can only be transcended through the fulfilment of the objective historical revolutionary role of the class-conscious proletariat.

    The emancipation of the proletariat must be the act of the proletariat itself - under the sole leadership, of course, of the one true world party of socialist revolution - the International Committee of the Fourth International. In their steadfast struggle against all forms of pseudo-left vulgarisations of revolutionary Marxism, David North and the Socialist Equality Party have won the rank-and-file proletariat to a genuine Marxist programme.

    The contradictions of global imperialism threaten a third world war fought with nuclear weapons, and therefore the fate of not just the working class, but the human species itself, depends on resolutely exposing the Pabloites, Grantites, Taaffites, Cliffites, Healyites, Hansenites, Macnairites, Mandelites, Steinerites and all other forms of counterrevolutionary opportunism blocking the path to planetary proletarian revolution.

    We urge all workers, youth and intellectuals stirred by this call to action to unite in Rank and File Committees and to contact the International Committee today.

    • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      Pabloites, Grantites, Taaffites, Cliffites, Healyites, Hansenites, Macnairites, Mandelites, Steinerites

      this read like star trek alien species. not a serious publication at all

  • grym [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    8·
    3 days ago

    WSWS article lmao. Utter garbage trot website with shit takes that are either anticommunist or ultra, and never useful.

    I’m getting disappointed in some comrades on this site ngl.

  • vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    Ok, I’m sorry but I’m blocking the instance, and I think there should be a discussion about making a separate instance about elections in the USA or something. It makes no fucking sense that people outside the US in Hexbear know the name of a mayor candidate to Los Fucking Angeles. I wanna have some input to conversations about electoralismo worldwide, not the sub to be a circlejerk of the DSA. USAcentrism is a big issue in the website NGL.

    • spectre [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      2 days ago

      This community was born from an American politics podcast. The Ameri-centrism can be criticized but it will never be eliminated.

      I am also against the concept of fine-tuning the content by elimination. If you want to see a different mix of content, post what you’d prefer to see! Site engagement is down and further “purity testing” (lack of a better term) of the content is going to kill it off, especially in the least radical comm of the instance.

    • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      If you want to see non-USA content then feel free to post it. Though you’re also free to block the comm, that’s fine too.

      To the extent that electoralism matters at all though, LA is significant on a global scale, having a population of 4 million in the city proper and 18 million in the greater metro area. It’s not like this is some Nate Silver micro-analysis about some random town in Iowa ahead of Super Tuesday (if that sounds like gibberish, then my point is doubly made)

      It would also be significant if a DSA tide does happen after Mamdani, so this story has more of a national relevance than LA in isolation.

  • xiaohongshu [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    I told y’all that Mamdani will be the America’s equivalent of Lenin. If he can inspire a new wave of leftists taking office, then it will transform the political landscape of America.