Social media is mostly bots, most people hate the government
Liberals are at a point where they hate the Dems and the GOP
The right wing coalition is falling apart with Candace owens, Tucker carlson, and Nick Fuentes separating the Nazis from the evangelical Christians.
Material conditions are getting worse, but we haven’t had the ai bubble pop or war with Venezuela. Either will make life way worse for the west and we’re gonna see chaos.
Idk what’s gonna happen, but I think trump 2.0 has kinda turned a lot of people away from the right by both making material conditions worse and being mean and annoying.
Look at any news sub on reddit and it’s filled with pro Israel bots and shit. But the amount of obvious pro Israel propaganda from the state and by bots and shit was so obvious it’s now turning every right winger under the age of 40 into a Nazi.
I don’t think the mass botting campaigns work. They only make people more upset at the right and make the right look like extremely annoying assholes.
The right won a lot of ground by going “Le woke is trying to put politics into everything”
But now every fucking social media thread about sports or video games or movies gets brigaded by obvious right wing bots, even the most stupid liberals I know hate it.
People hate this it makes it seem like right wingers are now the annoying sjw that makes everything about politics (they always have been) and since most people under 40 get their news from tiktok and shit the bots and MSM manufacturing consent campaigns don’t work.
My mother is 60 and gets her news from tiktok. She doesn’t want the US to invade Venezuela, literally nobody does only bots do.
It’s backfiring but I think the admin is super on twitter and think it’s working. I think they legit do not understand that they’re getting everyone to hate them and theyre making material conditions worse. I think they also believe more in the polymarket shit than polls because they’re that stupid.
What happens next? Trump’s polling is the worst it’s ever been. The right wing coalition has collapsed and now maga is basically only the white evangelical boomers.
If material conditions get worse we’re gonna see more Luigis and Tyler Robinsons in a country with way to many guns.
Agreed, the problem is that the reasons they oppose these things are fragile, meaning it will be easily possible for a more competent administration to get them to support them later. There was widespread opposition to the Vietnam war, but more importantly, decades later there was widespread agreement that it was bad. That didn’t stop 90%+ support for the Iraq war.
Of course, at no point did I or would I argue against this.
The difference now is that nobody gets their news from MSM anymore.
It’s way harder to manufacturer consent with genz and millennials.
Social media has made it so that everyone picks their news sources.
Back in 2003 everyone was watching CNN and shit. My household doesn’t even have that.
I don’t think they can manufacture consent like they used to.
They tried for Charlie Kirk, they got people fired, they held memorials, they have Erica Kirk on all of MSM parading the corpse of her husband. And what do you see?
Everyone under the age of 40 is mocking his death. Ai vids of his face on rappers and porn stars. We are charlie Kirk song is a meme.
I don’t think they can do 2003 anymore
This is true and a good point, but that’s why there’s so much social media astroturfing. That’s why there’s all these “think of the children” social media control laws being pushed. You’re right that their current strategy doesn’t work that well, but they’re not out of the game yet.
Some right-wing media figures had a ton of success (especially with young people in some cases, like Jordan Peterson) for a while. That seems to have plateaued, but I expect a new set will appear that adjust their strategies to suit.
We’ve kind of drifted in this conversation though, I agree with your original point that the online “discussions” are not really representative of the broader American population.