Social media is mostly bots, most people hate the government

Liberals are at a point where they hate the Dems and the GOP

The right wing coalition is falling apart with Candace owens, Tucker carlson, and Nick Fuentes separating the Nazis from the evangelical Christians.

Material conditions are getting worse, but we haven’t had the ai bubble pop or war with Venezuela. Either will make life way worse for the west and we’re gonna see chaos.

Idk what’s gonna happen, but I think trump 2.0 has kinda turned a lot of people away from the right by both making material conditions worse and being mean and annoying.

Look at any news sub on reddit and it’s filled with pro Israel bots and shit. But the amount of obvious pro Israel propaganda from the state and by bots and shit was so obvious it’s now turning every right winger under the age of 40 into a Nazi.

I don’t think the mass botting campaigns work. They only make people more upset at the right and make the right look like extremely annoying assholes.

The right won a lot of ground by going “Le woke is trying to put politics into everything”

But now every fucking social media thread about sports or video games or movies gets brigaded by obvious right wing bots, even the most stupid liberals I know hate it.

People hate this it makes it seem like right wingers are now the annoying sjw that makes everything about politics (they always have been) and since most people under 40 get their news from tiktok and shit the bots and MSM manufacturing consent campaigns don’t work.

My mother is 60 and gets her news from tiktok. She doesn’t want the US to invade Venezuela, literally nobody does only bots do.

It’s backfiring but I think the admin is super on twitter and think it’s working. I think they legit do not understand that they’re getting everyone to hate them and theyre making material conditions worse. I think they also believe more in the polymarket shit than polls because they’re that stupid.

What happens next? Trump’s polling is the worst it’s ever been. The right wing coalition has collapsed and now maga is basically only the white evangelical boomers.

If material conditions get worse we’re gonna see more Luigis and Tyler Robinsons in a country with way to many guns.

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    I agree with you up to a point. I do think MAGA will fall apart when Trump retires/dies (Carlson, Owens, and MTG are being proactive about jumping off the ship before it starts sinking), but the missing part of the equation is that the Democrats are vastly more right-winged than what they were in say 2016 and because the Democrats are far more right-winged, the Republicans will have no choice but to be even more right-winged in order to electorally differentiate themselves from the Democrats. Your average non-MAGA Republicans got dragged to the right due to MAGA and in a post-MAGA world, they will be pushed to the right by post-MAGA Democrats. Current Democrats are already more right-winged than Bush Jr (Bush Jr at least blames the Zionist entity for troubles in the West Bank when modern Democrats won’t even do that). I am not looking forward to how much more reactionary post-MAGA Democrats will be. Who cares if the post-MAGA GOP no longer malds about cultural war bullshit if they benefit or continue reactionary policies that post-MAGA Democrats started?

    Remember, police funding skyrocketed under Biden, not Trump. Cop cities where police get trained by the IOF popped off under Biden, not Trump. ICE gets all the media spotlight, but ICE would be nowhere near as effective without local police giving ICE the lay of the land and supplementing them with additional manpower, local police which received massive funding under Biden, not Trump.

    And as for people like Mamdani, the more I think about it, the more I see it a step back from 2016-era Sanders. It’s almost a decade at this point, but I remember how people were genuinely excited about Sanders. And a big part of that excitement was the fact that Sanders wasn’t a Democrat. This got spun to him being an “outsider,” which is completely untrue since he has decades of experience as a senator. No, a major source of excitement was the fact that he was a non-Democrat who entered the Democratic primaries as a Democrat to steal the Democratic nomination from Clinton, a person everyone fucking hated. This was why Clinton stans fucking hated Sanders so much. For a millennial who got radicalized by OWS, 2016-era Sanders really was something to be excited about, someone who could finally smash the duopoly.

    Of course, it turned out that Sanders was a sheepdog and his major political blunder/sheepdog subroutine being activated was refusing to form a new political party after 2016. Now we’re stuck with various (faux) progressive figures who don’t even have it in them to run as independents like Sanders. So much for smashing the duopoly. I guess instead of forming a real workers party or having the bare dignity to run as an independent, we can try reforming the party that started out as the pro-slavery party whose party line included thinking runaway slaves suffer from a mental disorder.

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      I’d argue we’re in a better position with zohran vs Bernie because we’re already seeing a couple of zohran copycats.

      After 2016 we had the squad but they were not really Bernie copy cats.

      I think zohran is much more liked and the dsa infrastructure made by Bernie in 2016 is leading to more left wing people running

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        The Mamdani copycats don’t mean much in the end because they are running as Democrats and will not have much power within the Democratic party anyways. DSA right now still has the worst parts of a centralized org and a decentralized org somehow and they tail the Democrats too much. I don’t think they have ever endorsed a non-Democratic candidate outside of Sanders. When people see that the only candidates an org endorse have a D next to their name, people will rightfully think that the org is just an appendage of the Democratic party.

        I guess the whole point of my post is that much of 2016-era Sanders selling point was the fact that he was a DINO who’s just there to steal the Democratic nomination from a completely despised figure that everyone fucking hates. Mamdani, AOC, and so on can’t really say they’re DINOs because their entire political career is through the Democratic party.

        2016 was an inflection point, and there’s a political faction within what passes as the US left that has been trying for almost an entire decade to recreate 2016-era Sanders. Their politics are represented by Democratic socdems and Jacobin magazine and the NYC branch of the DSA. Just trying to recreate 2016-era Sanders without understanding what made 2016-era Sanders work.