• Zoidberg@lemm.ee
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    It’s a bit more complicated than that, unfortunately.

    What happens when Microsoft adds something to their web building tools that forces all visitors to websites using these tools to use IE? Or when your bank (or even worse, utilities) start requiring Windows and IE?

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      It’ll probably end up worse than that. Turn off secure boot and Windows may still run, but it will no longer verify and all these sites will now refuse to work on your computer. So if you like to run Linux, even dual booting or running Windows in a VM for those things that absolutely require Windows won’t be good enough anymore.

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        It’s not just that.

        Apples implementation of this doesn’t tell the website anything about the device other than “Apples approves”.

        Google’s implementation will give the website direct information about the browser and computer. Which permits them to get granular and targeted on restrictions.

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          Its a fixed identifier, it can be a replacement for amythimg to forcably identify users:

          • super cookies
          • gpu profiling
          • unwanted cookies
          • IP adress recording (increseingly unusable)
          • phone numbers
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          “Apples approves”

          This reminds me: If you want to see what happens when a company implements this system where they approve your usage and then warps it into a punishment system later by revoking their approval when youve been naughty, see minecraft chat reporting.

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      I’d be very surprised for one thing, because IE is no longer a product Microsoft supports in any capacity. I’d also be confused as to which tools the web hosting market just shifted to that they’re using Microsoft tools, there are monopolists out there I’m worried about but Microsoft isn’t my main one right now

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        if my utility company requires me to have a Windows PC to get gas or electricity, then they can supply me with a Windows PC just for that purpose

        They won’t. Then what’s your plan?

        What are they going to do, tell some 90 year old lady who has never touched a computer in her life that she needs to get online with an approved device to keep her light on?

        No, they’ll tell her to pay via check/mail as usual.

        But that’s a ridiculous argument anyway, because if there’s anyone that’s going to own an unmodified, store bought, “approved” device, it’s a 90 year old.

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          They won’t. Then what’s your plan?

          INB4 “I’ll just switch my appliances to electric and go off-grid solar.”

          Good for you, hypothetical yet inevitable replier, you should absolutely do that. But that doesn’t solve the collective, societal problem. The real issue here is not whether it’s possible for individuals to resist or implement a workaround, but that it is fundamentally wrong for corporations to have that much or that kind of power in the first place!

          The only actual solutions to the systemic issue must be legislative – this kind of abusive corporate power-grabbing has to be outlawed!

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        What are they going to do, tell some 90 year old lady who has never touched a computer in her life that she needs to get online with an approved device to keep her light on?

        Thats exactly what they will do