• Lussy [he/him, des/pair]@hexbear.net
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    What does China do when its access to international trade matches that of DPRK and Cuba

    This is quite the suspension of disbelief one has to employ to follow your argument. China will never have a lack of access to international trade markets to make it level with DPRK and.Cuba in that regard.

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      China has the access it is given because the bourgeoisie have incentive to give it in the form of capital investment in companies. If you remove that, they no longer have any incentive whatsoever to be friendly with it, their will no longer be a split in the bourgeoisie between the members who want friendly relations due to their capital growth and the members who want to retake it. Instead they will be united in wanting to overthrow it for the purposes of expanding capital market access.

      The current arrangement is a direct result of the carrot dangling that China’s current arrangement provides. A carrot is dangled in front of the invested boug who then form the backbone of pro-china bourgeoisie that do not want to see destablisation of the region as they want their investments to grow. Remove that and all of them become supporters of destabilisation instead.

      Once that occurs it will take time for them to uncouple from the dependencies that the current arrangement has created internationally. But they will uncouple, and then they will sanction, and then they will surround, destabilise and ultimately seek to destroy. You must understand that China’s current strength and international dependence upon it for manufacturing among other things is in fact caused by this policy, it created the circumstances that now exist. All of that dependence and the powerhouse of international manufacturing China has become would not exist without having done this.

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        If the international bourgeoisie wanted to or could decouple themselves from China, they would have done so many years ago.

        All of that dependence and the powerhouse of international manufacturing China has become would not exist without having done this.

        The question isn’t what could China have done following the cultural revolution but what it should be doing now.

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          If the international bourgeoisie wanted to or could decouple themselves from China, they would have done so many years ago.

          Why? Why do you think they would do that when they’re making hundreds of billions from access to 1.6million proles worth of production? No. Absolutely not. They will not do such a thing while they have market access and capital growth. Only upon having that access taken away do the numbers on paper then shift for the people who are completely and totally driven by the hard numbers.

          The question isn’t what could China have done following the cultural revolution but what it should be doing now.

          Yes and the point I am generally making is that it is pre-emptive to switch to a socialist mode of production before securing the resources that you need to sustain that mode of production.

          China IS doing that, with their current focus on new forms of energy they aim to eliminate their need to import oil, which they import 70% of their needs. They are doing this through solar mega projects and Thorium, which also eliminates their reliance on uranium imports.

          Upon achieving this security, the material requirements for the socialist mode of production open up.

          All of this is ahead of target for 2035, looking like it will be achieved by 2032.