except by supporting the empire you are supporting literal thalmor occupation. When the government helps the thalmor roam your country hunting “heretics” that is an occupation.
You’re exactly right, it’s still the less terrible choice because it leaves an opportunity to fight back in the future.
Rather than leave the empire to fall easily to the Aldmeri Dominion and Skyrim with less support, as well as Racist Ensalver Hold Leaders.
Both suck.
Ideally you’d have the Dragonborn reunite Skyrim under the empire, challenge the High Queen for the position and defat, not kill, her, become high king, and then claim the position of Emperor of the empire (oh look, someone in the Dark Brotherhood killed the emperor) due to Divine Right of Dragon Blood, kick all Thalmor (not high elves) out of the empire, decree the illegality of Racism and Challenge anyone in Cyrodill to 'Disagree with me via combat. ’
But then we run into issues of “absolute power corrupts absolutely” and/or “what happens when Dragonborn no live no more”
Yes, but I think it’s also to remember that ulfric was funded by the thalmor. The whole point of the Skyrim secession movement was just to weaken the empire and ultimately make both territories easier to invade in the future.
No he wasn’t that literally never happened they may have let him escape and felt his fight weakened everyone but them but he wasn’t funded by them or anything like that and also far from the reason the succession movement existed. That’s like claiming Lenin was a German puppet and the bolshevik movement as a whole invalid because they let him return to Russia to do what he did.
The White-Gold-Concardat lets the Empire recover from the war. Humans breed faster than elves, so waiting benefits them. But a civil war makes the Empire too weak to fight the Dominion in the next war.
Also Heimskr was fine until the Stormcloaks got him caught. Nobody cared that he was worshipping Talos. The law wasn’t being enforced.
except by supporting the empire you are supporting literal thalmor occupation. When the government helps the thalmor roam your country hunting “heretics” that is an occupation.
You’re exactly right, it’s still the less terrible choice because it leaves an opportunity to fight back in the future. Rather than leave the empire to fall easily to the Aldmeri Dominion and Skyrim with less support, as well as Racist Ensalver Hold Leaders. Both suck.
Ideally you’d have the Dragonborn reunite Skyrim under the empire, challenge the High Queen for the position and defat, not kill, her, become high king, and then claim the position of Emperor of the empire (oh look, someone in the Dark Brotherhood killed the emperor) due to Divine Right of Dragon Blood, kick all Thalmor (not high elves) out of the empire, decree the illegality of Racism and Challenge anyone in Cyrodill to 'Disagree with me via combat. ’
But then we run into issues of “absolute power corrupts absolutely” and/or “what happens when Dragonborn no live no more”
Yes, but I think it’s also to remember that ulfric was funded by the thalmor. The whole point of the Skyrim secession movement was just to weaken the empire and ultimately make both territories easier to invade in the future.
No he wasn’t that literally never happened they may have let him escape and felt his fight weakened everyone but them but he wasn’t funded by them or anything like that and also far from the reason the succession movement existed. That’s like claiming Lenin was a German puppet and the bolshevik movement as a whole invalid because they let him return to Russia to do what he did.
The White-Gold-Concardat lets the Empire recover from the war. Humans breed faster than elves, so waiting benefits them. But a civil war makes the Empire too weak to fight the Dominion in the next war.
Also Heimskr was fine until the Stormcloaks got him caught. Nobody cared that he was worshipping Talos. The law wasn’t being enforced.