Good moves. Breaking free of US dependence is now a matter of critical national security.
While it’s easy to get frustrated at the world’s tepid response to Trump, the reality is the world’s reliance on US financial and tech companies makes things like sanctions and embargoes effectively impossible.
And Europe has noticed. Between this, establishing European payment processors, etc they’re working towards a future where they can put real economic pressure on the US.
Yeah. As usual, the bulk of the people realized too late that something needed to be done and only started doing it after it needed to be done, but at least it is being done. This is a pattern throughout history.
Which is why they need to make laws
And then invest in software for europe
the reality is the world’s reliance on US financial and tech companies makes things like sanctions and embargoes effectively impossible.
Yeah, and I find it funny that there were plenty of naive and emotional calls to sanction US demanding world leaders to stand up to Trump. Good luck to them, it’s easier for them to make demands since they don’t make the decisions.
Good luck to them, it’s easier for them to make demands since they don’t make the decisions.
We don’t need to sanction US, we just need to close the loopholes that allow the US tech to not pay taxes in EU. As simple as that.
We especially need a European alternative for let’s encrypt. Almost all websites, web applications and APIs rely on it.
We need solid alternatives for AWS, Azure and Google Cloud. A lot of critical European corporations rely on those services, witch are one EO away from blocking their European customers.
Let’s Encrypt afaik just makes use of the ACME protocol. There are already ACME providers out there to be used. I know because I switched from Cloudflare SSL to one, and deliberately avoided using Let’sEncrypt instead.
https://acmeclients.com/certificate-authorities/ https://european-alternatives.eu/category/acme-ssl-certificate-providers
Sure, but that does not seem like a big problem to me. An SSL certificate provider is not something too complicated to setup, nor something that requires large infrastructure. I guess that if it has to be a public good that could be accomplished with some 200K €/year or something like that.
I agree, but if there’s no alternative now, let’s encrypt could be used to bring most of the internet down in an instant.
Not really, if disrupted it would just bring down SSL encryption, which wile important it is not critical for the services to work.
Besides, if the block perdured more than a few days, people would switch quickly, I guess within a week, to other services.
It is not something I’m too worried about.
Good, but it will be hard and slow after decades of lacking foresight. The fact that we stuck ourselves in this situation is crazy. I really hope Europe gets a big enough shock to start think again, but I’m not really seeing signs of it…
The article this thread is about, that you are directly responding to, is a sign of it.
Well, “plan to legislate” is something more of a hope lifeline than a true sign, I’m talking more of actual implementations, but I see your point.
Good. This will force more competition into the market.
Wonder how American tech bros are viewing their support of Trump after a year in office?
They’ll continue pushing Trump to extort Europe as hard as possible. Tarriffs here, NATO support there. Because they know that this is the best time to do it. Once Europe reduces the dependency on USA, their leverage will only get smaller and smaller
I would really love to know how they think this ends. Its like they either cant see 2 moves ahead or they are just delusional
let’s gooo 🚀
good job, Europe.
