• hector@lemmy.today
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    You need an influencer to hand feed you information, it’s getting kind of pathetic. Can’t even see what is right in front of you, can’t even recognize indisputable fact. On this one I would start to suspect your sincerity in not recognizing what I say is true. It is indisputably true, asking for a source for helicoptors being vulnerable to weapons systems venezuela had on the ground in spades is next level ignorant.

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      That is speculations, not “indisputable facts”. Speculations can be fine, sometimes it is the best we have access to, but the reasoning of some guy on the internet is not a source about facts on the ground in Venezuela.

      Your theory on the US terrorist attack and abduction of Maduro is one among several. There are other theories with some level of credibility out there, such as:

      • Venezuelan defenses were disabled by American electronic warfare
      • Venezuela fucked up and was taken by surprise
      • The Venezuelan government made a Faustian bargain with Washington, offering Maduro as a symbolic victory to Trump
      • Venezuela stood down, fearing retaliation against civilians if US American terrorists were hurt
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        You can go ahead and wait for permission to consider undeniable facts as mentioned. You are not worth talking to.

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              Just remember that the talking to this guy is not for the guy, but for the people reading your conversation. When I joined the internet, these kind of exchanges made me understand human behavior, see how to properly reason, and they still provide important information. This exchange was useful to me.

              • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                Yeah, I cannot imagine how this POS possibly thought this would go when they came in with their mind made up and are tilting at the Hexbear windmill. Really just showing off their own ignorance and how not to talk to other people.

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                You’re right. Sometimes I touch the poo. This time I passed intentionally. It just takes so much mental energy. But the payoff is likely worth it. I’ll try to muster the energy more

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                  Sounds good, just don’t let me or anyone make you muster more energy than is acceptable to you. It’s much more important that you stay mentally strong and in a good place than anything you could achieve by arguing with weird people xD

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        “prove” that helicopters are vulnerable to weapons systems?

        You should be ashamed of your ignorance.

        • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          okay your two neurons are firing, you’re starting to think about evidence and things like cause and effect

          So, what do you know about Venezuela’s military capabilities? What weapons? How many and where? What countermeasures do the Americans have for them? Do you actually KNOW anything, or are you just going “it’s easy to shoot down a helicopter, that they didn’t means they MUST have allowed them in”? Because it really sounds like the latter, and that really sounds like YOU inadvertently supporting the american line that the U.S. won and all it really needed to do was kidnap or kill Maduro.

          P.s. were the 100 people killed just crisis actors or something

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          That’s pretty easy to do since I can go find pictures of helicopters being shot down and look up articles with sources talking about helicopters being shot down.

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      yeah, we should just take your arrogant word for it. Seems a lot more likely to me that the Venezuelan military got caught with their pants down and bungled the defense, the Amerikkkan military has plenty of stealth and jamming technology to disrupt air defense for an operation like this

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        It is arrogant realizing fact, got it.

        Bootlickers would be hard pressed to cover for the administration more than you here. You have nothing in reality to work with so it’s not easy because I am undeniably right, in my arrogance in not pretending to believe what I’m told by the worst people in the world.