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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Sino@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 month ago

WE CANNOT LET CHINA CURE CANCER.

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WE CANNOT LET CHINA CURE CANCER.

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  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    They’re so close to curing T1 diabetes and I’m rooting for them. If I live to see the insulin/diabetes medical device manufacturers go bankrupt I may achieve nirvana

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      manifesting this

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        Christian Prayer Circle, Pastor Xi with the laying of the hands to cure my ails

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      from what I remember they have already cured T1 and T2 in trials, they have patients with both that are off insulin after gene therapies

      • abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Just a handful of people. I’m not sure about T2 as my T1 ass doesn’t follow any news/research about it specifically, but I do know for certain that they ‘cured’ T1 in a woman using her own stem cells which they turned into islet cells (the insulin producing ones in your pancreas), injected her with them, and her body was still producing its own insulin again/managing hypoglycemia by itself after a year. That case specifically though the woman was already taking immunosuppresants so it is really unclear on if that kind of treatment would actually work in diabetics without our immune systems just going stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2 to them like it already does to our natural islet producing areas in our pancreases.

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11662597/

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      :banting-best-shining:

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    It would be so much fun watching western media try to spin curing cancer as an evil communist plot though.

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      Go ahead and get your commie jab! I’m gonna cure my cancer with ivermectin and benzene

    • vovchik_ilich [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      We’ve literally seen this with COVID haven’t we?

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Yeah the Chinese and Russian vaccines came out like a year ahead of the US ones and the media just fearmongered about them not being safe

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          Reminder that, [Reuters]Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic

    • alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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      Whenever “The Commies” beat America to a medical breakthrough, it’s indeed very fun to watch the Red Scare nonsense spewed by Western media.

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        I’ve noticed there’s a lot of racism involved too; I recall the media’s initial mockery and skepticism of Cuba when they revealed they’d had success with a lung cancer vaccine, or mockery of Iran in regards to their ability to reverse engineer drones, claiming no one there had the skills for it.

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          Yeah. That side of it is just sad and frustrating, the Red Scare type nonsense is at least funny.

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      Eating burnt red meat while smoking reds with the filters ripped out to stick it to Beijing.

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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        Does burnt red meat give you cancer?

        • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          In the IARC system, red meat is classed under 2A: which means it’s probably carcinogenic. There’s a strong link between heavy red meat consumption and bowel cancer compared to people who rarely consume or do not consume red meat. In fact, red meat is the example Wikipedia uses for group 2A.

          Burnt food is IARC Group 2B, possibly carcinogenic. Acrylamide created by burning food has shown an increase in cancer in some lab animals but last I read it was inconclusive for humans as its rarely a staple diet for the vast majority of humans so it’s hard to research.

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            I don’t…. What? Lol

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                Oh yeah? I had no idea that burnt stuff was carcinogenic. Not that I ever eat burnt stuff anyway.

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    You just know the CIA is cooking up a supercancer that can beat the cure.

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      Sorry, can’t have free healthcare cause CIA needs all the money to develop new ways to make people sick.

    • red_giant [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      We need to research gain of function for brain eating bacteria

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    achieving AGI

    I’ve heard China is also very close to finding the boogeyman

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      We have to win the “Asking ChatGPT to act like it’s 10x smarter than itself” race at all costs!

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    • aanes_appreciator [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Capitalism as a system is anolygous to a cancer. It has no morality, no consciousness, no realization that its very existence is its own death sentence.

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        I always find this one interesting. I think Capitalism as en entire system isn’t necessarily cancerous in total. Marx probably didn’t have the vision of cancer we have today, but I think his analogy about the vampire was still better. Capitalism as a system is hard to just call a cancer because it is productive, because its laborers are productive. Capital as cancer in the system is closer, but still not as good. So saying that capital is a vampire, and so capitalism is a society dominated by vampires, is a better analogy. It is dead, but can only keep itself moving and growing by consuming the living (labor). In doing so, it grows and gets more hungry, and continuously needs to balance a need to consume more versus to let the living (labor) produce (so that it can be consumed). Cancer has no such mechanism to protect itself and no desire to stay alive and growing. Capital is mindless but the system gives it interests and mechanisms to act within the system in its own interest.

        I guess my point is that cancer as an analogy underestimates capital and the system in which capital functions as the organizer of labor.

        Long rant, no real reason I wrote this out except I was kinda bored. Calling it cancer is fine too lol

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          Marx on Capital as a real god

          What about the individual people who participate in this social practice? Surely their individual consciousness, their ideas, and their behaviour matter, and make a difference?

          To a certain extent they do of course. But individuals come and go, but capitals live much longer than any individual human. The people controlled by the capital — that is the workers that supply labour to firms, and capitalists that exploit them and extract profits — are mere replaceable components in the control loop, mechanically performing prescribed functional roles.

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            Ian Wright is great. Vampires live longer than humans (but canonically are dead right?), just like capital. Good addition

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              They’re also parasitically dependant on humans and would eventually use up all of humanity if left lo g enough.

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                I think this is actually my disagreement, because I think capital in itself would do so, but capitalism as a system has systematized class collaboration between capitalists to prevent them doing this

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              Precisely

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          You’re right and this is why vampire stories originated from the Fear of The Rich/Ruling Class. Capitalists live by sucking the life force out of the working class (labour power) keeping them subjugated. Like vampires.

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      they are not clueless of what the ramification of their actions are, like how a cancer cell might be, they’re far worse than that.

      No but it’s okay you see because the people they hurt live in a dictatorship, not in a democracy like the good guys like Ukraine and Denmark.

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    China has cured cancer.

    But at what cost?

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      China has cured cancer and their nationalized medicine programme has made the cure freely available worldwide

      But at what cost

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    These people are inhuman monsters. Truly the most disgusting evil people on the planet

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    What good goods does the US make that someone in China would want? A Ford F-350?

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      I’ve seen a yank tank in Wuhan, and I’m 80% sure it was for a photoshoot.

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        I’ve seen american dick pills at the flea market in Wuhan, they had the american flag on the package. the packaging of the pills i mean

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          Some of the equipment and fridges at my work was made in America and they really fucking let you know about it. The sticker is always huge and has a flag on it and says something like “made with pride and freedom in America” ive seen one with a bald eagle on it. Get over yourselves guys, you manufactured a fridge

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            I’ve seen that kind of thing on plastic plates made for kids…I guarantee the virgin plastic they used and the molding machine was made in the China though

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              Only semi related, but im looking into DIY plastic molding for model building purposes. Then I can melt down waste plastic into new parts

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      B200s

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    It’d be cool to be surprised by this, but I kinda think “curing” cancer is nearly a big a fantasy as AGI. What is there to cure? Cells being damaged? Treatment will continue to be refined, sure, but don’t expect to ever see a panacea.

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      also,

      smart export controls that target the critical inputs for China’s technological and military machine

      YOU DID THAT ALREADY AND GOT FUCK ALL TO SHOW FOR IT WHAAT ARE YOU TALKING ABUT

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        <insert Far Cry 3’s Vaas quote>

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      You make a little robot and tell it to go in there and get that cancer

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        you make a submarine and put a dude in it and shrink the whole thing and inject it into the patient, like in that documentary i saw

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          Well yeah if you’re american workers lives are cheaper than robots

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            The workers’ submarines will be made by OceanGate steering-device

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          An armada magic school buses led by Dr. Admiral Ms. Frizzle.

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      yeah “cancer” is a pattern of cellular behavior and the causes of it are myriad and depend on the type of cell that’s fucking up.

      there’s almost certainly never going to be a generic cure or prevention for all cancers. maybe some scifi shit with human cloning and brain transplants but that’s not fixing the cancer in the body that has it.

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    that Xi Jinping is targeting

    liberals stop pretending one guy rules China by himself challenge

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    Cold war is back on the menu

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    natsec is when you can’t let anyone else do anything that benefits anyone because that means they have one over on you

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      I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people

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    We’re good, Biden already cured cancer, he promised.

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    Openly speaking like a Captain Planet villain.

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    “our approach would have failed”

    Well. Good news for ya lads. It already has.

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