A reminder that as the US continues to threaten countries around the world, fedposting is to be very much avoided (even with qualifiers like “in Minecraft”) and comments containing it will be removed.

Image is of a harbor in Tasiilak, Greenland.


NATO infighting? You love to see it, folks.

The latest incident of America’s satrapies becoming increasingly unhappy about their mandated kowtowing involves, of all places, Greenland. As I’m sure most people here are aware, Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark with a degree of geopolitical and economic importance - the former due to its proximity to Russia, and the latter due to the proven and potential reserves of minerals that could be mined there. It’s also been an odd fascination of Trump during his reign, now culminating in outright demands.

Trump has called for negotiations with Denmark to purchase Greenland, justifying this by stating that it would be safer from Russia and China under America’s protection. Apparently, Norway’s decision to not give him the Nobel Peace Prize further inflamed him (not that the Norweigan government decides who receives the prizes). He has also said that countries that do not allow him to make the decision - which not only includes Denmark, but also other European countries - will suffer increased tariffs by June, and that he has not ruled out a military solution.

This threat has led to much internal bickering inside the West, with European leaders stating they will not give in to Trump’s demands, and even sending small numbers of troops to Greenland. The most bizarre part of this whole affair is that the US already basically has total military access and control over Greenland anyway, and has since the 1950s, when they signed an agreement with Denmark. There are already several US military facilities on Greenland, and B-52 bombers have famously flown in the vicinity of the island (and crashed into it with nuclear bombs in tow, in fact). Therefore, this whole event - in line with his all-performance, little-results presidency so far - seems to be largely about the theatrics of forcing the Europeans to continue to submit to his whims. I would not be surprised if they ultimately do sign a very imbalanced deal, though - the current European leadership is bound too tightly to the US to put up even half-hearted resistance.

This is all simultaneously occurring alongside the Canadian Prime Minister’s visit to China in which longstanding sore spots in their bilateral relationship are being addressed, with China reducing tariffs on Canadian canola oilseeds, and Canada reducing tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, as well as currency swaps between their central banks, among many other things. It seems no accident that Canada’s reconsideration of their relationship with China is occurring as Trump has made remarks about turning Canada into the next US state, as well as the demand for the renegotiation of the USMCA.


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The Zionist Entity's Genocide of Palestine

If you have evidence of Zionist crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against the temporary Zionist entity. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel’s destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

Mirrors of Telegram channels that have been erased by Zionist censorship.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia’s youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don’t want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it’s just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists’ side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR’s former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR’s forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster’s telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a ‘propaganda tax’, if you don’t believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


  • xiaohongshu [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Still, none of what you’re saying addresses my point, which is that material analysis must necessarily come from understanding the historical progress.

    I’ll give you one example: I have heard so many “Western leftists” trying to argue why China should/should not have billionaires and despite all the rhetoric and the flowery language, they never approach it from the historical trajectory itself. They’ll tell you how the CPC controls the billionaires (lol, in that case, why do you need billionaires in the first place), but not the entire economic history since post-Mao reform, the decentralization of the economy, the 1994 Tax Sharing Reform, the privatization wave of the mid-1990s, the end of welfare housing and the liberalization of real estate market under Zhu Rongji in 1998, the joining of WTO in 2001 etc.

    Without understanding the historical progress, you cannot understand why we come to where we are today. The system and the policy framework evolve out of such historical events. No amount of rhetoric or flowery language can explain that.

    As I have explained before, the Imperial Court Examination evolved out of the emperors attempting to curb the influence of the feudal haozu (豪族) since Emperor Han Wudi’s Northern Expedition, which later evolved into the feudal lords (menfa, 门阀) by the Northern Wei dynasty. Such bureaucratic system for class mobility (a core aspect of East Asian culture) is still very much alive in China today, albeit taking different forms.

    As Marx said, “the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles”. To understand where we are today, we need to go way back in time and approach history from the perspective of class analysis. How the mechanism for class mobility arose in China, and how that evolved into the deep bureaucracy of the modern Chinese state today.

    And if one cannot understand that, one cannot understand why Mao felt the need for a Cultural Revolution. Remember that Mao himself claimed to have read Zizhi Tongjian for at least 17 times (!!), I’m sure he knows very well how the deep bureaucracy of the Chinese society works.

    (To be clear, I am not on board the CR stuff like the ultra-left, but I am starting to grasp the thinking behind it after re-reading a lot of Mao Selected Works lately lol).

    There is no need to downplay the purging of all the highest ranking generals in the CMC. We know these are serious problems. If you think this is just removing a few leaders at the very top and that the core integrity of the chain-of-command is somehow going to remain unaffected, then I don’t know what else to say. This isn’t some mid ranking officials, these are the people commanding vast influence over the military corp.

    EDIT: Just want to add that I don’t expect everyone here to exercise the same academic rigor as I do (which isn’t much, to be honest, since I’m not trying to publish in an academic journal), as this is a fringe shitposting forum, so having as much fun as possible while learning from real world events should be the priority.

    But understand that flowery language, while nice for propaganda purpose, is both non-materialist (not rooted in class-based analysis) and ahistorical (does not confront historical evidence).

    Anyone can say “China is working towards achieving socialism”, but the statement in itself is meaningless from a dialectic materialist standpoint.

    If it succeeds, I can say “see, I told you so”, and if it doesn’t, I can also say “look, I never said when it will happen, there are many twists and turns before we get there”. It doesn’t help you abstract the core contradictions from a historical materialist perspective, does not provide any explanatory power for the current events, nor does it serve anything useful for material analysis as it doesn’t involve concrete and specific examples of historical evidence.

    So, while I don’t pretend that everything I say is correct, I try to approach my analysis with these criteria in mind.

    • QinShiHuangsShlong [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I obviously don’t disagree that historical trajectory matters. Of course it does. No materialist analysis can be done without tracing how concrete institutions, policies, and class relations developed over time. The post-reform economic path you list absolutely shaped the current structure of Chinese society.

      Where I think your analysis is flawed is that you treat history itself as the determining force, rather than the material relations operating within each historical stage.

      Historical materialism does not mean “go back as far as possible.” It means identifying which relations of production are dominant at a given moment, and which have already been negated. When you explain present contradictions primarily through imperial institutions and civilizational continuity, the analysis shifts from materialism into historical essentialism.

      The imperial examination system was not an abstract cultural mechanism. It was a superstructure rooted in a landlord economy based on agrarian surplus extraction. That economic base was fundamentally destroyed in the twentieth century. Land reform eliminated the landlord class. Collectivization dismantled hereditary property relations. Socialist industrialization replaced agrarian production as the dominant foundation of society.

      What remains today is not the continuation of that system, but a modern bureaucratic structure necessary to govern an industrialized society of 1.4 billion people. Bureaucracy is not uniquely Chinese. The Soviet Union developed similar contradictions without Confucianism, dynasties, or imperial examinations. To explain modern governance primarily through ancient lineage systems is not materialist it is a prime example of cultural determinism.

      Chairman Mao understood Chinese history deeply, yes. But he did not conclude that socialism was threatened by “thousands of years of tradition.” He concluded that new bourgeois elements emerge within socialist society itself.

      The danger lay not in ancient habits, but in the material conditions of socialist transition: unequal authority, division of labor, persistence of commodity relations, and the separation of cadres from the masses. That is why Mao spoke of “capitalist roaders,” not “imperial bureaucrats.” His analysis was forward-looking, not civilizationally fatalistic. If the problem were simply inherited culture, socialism would be impossible by definition.

      On the question of billionaires, your historical description is largely correct but again, description is not analysis.

      Those reforms were not accidental deviations nor ideological capitulation. They were responses to concrete material constraints: technological backwardness, capital shortage, external blockade, and the collapse of the socialist camp. Market mechanisms were introduced to develop productive forces under conditions of extreme pressure. The emergence of private capital was a contradiction produced by that process, not its purpose.

      Dialectical materialism does not ask whether billionaires “should exist” in the abstract. It asks whether they have become a ruling class. Who controls political power? Who commands the strategic sectors? Who determines national development?

      Class power is decisive, not income concentration alone. This contradiction is real, unresolved, and openly acknowledged, but unresolved contradiction is not the same as restoration. Marxism does not operate on moral comfort; it operates on balance of forces.

      On the PLA purges: you are again right that these are extremely serious events. No one should downplay that. But seriousness does not automatically imply institutional breakdown. A military whose highest commanders cannot be investigated is far more dangerous than one where they can be. The PLA’s most unstable period was not today, but the era when military units were running businesses, trading land, and operating beyond political supervision. That was addressed precisely through internal rectification.

      Contradictions within the Party and military are not evidence that socialism has failed. They are evidence that class struggle continues under new conditions. The mistake is moving from “these contradictions exist” to “therefore the system is fundamentally corrupted beyond reform.” That leap is not dialectical; it is pessimistic metaphysics.

      You are correctly observing real tensions: bureaucratic stratification, elite reproduction pressures, market influence, and institutional inertia. Where your analysis falters is treating these contradictions as expressions of an ancient, almost immutable structure.

      China today is not governed by imperial legacy. It is governed by the contradictions of rapid socialist development within a hostile capitalist world system. Those contradictions cannot be purged away overnight, but neither are they proof of inevitable degeneration.

      Dialectical materialism does not promise purity. It explains motion. And motion means struggle, correction, instability, and transformation.

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        Again, extremely well-said.

        Contradictions within the Party and military are not evidence that socialism has failed. They are evidence that class struggle continues under new conditions. The mistake is moving from “these contradictions exist” to “therefore the system is fundamentally corrupted beyond reform.” That leap is not dialectical; it is pessimistic metaphysics.

        This is really the kernal of seeing contradictions as fatal. Taken to the logical extreme, this is the difference between mis-analyzing China and thinking it needs a revolution, and understanding that by virtue of existing, socialism is going to have problems, flaws, contradictions that need to be resolved to move forward.

    • How the mechanism for class mobility arose in China, and how that evolved into the deep bureaucracy of the modern Chinese state today.

      This part is always so interesting to me, because on the face of it the imperial examination system is deeply egalitarian in a way no other ancient civilisation approached. The idea that it was not genes but effort and intelligence that would allow you access to a better life is astounding to see so far back. There’s always been a tension between trying to co-opt that examination system for the already existing great families, but its existence at all is always so shocking to me. Mirrors a lot the Roman dominate (the late empire, post crisis of the Third Century) where governors and imperial workers could no longer be based on the patrician class because they were functionally useless, and they needed to implement a kind of meritocracy for commoners to actually run thing.

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      I don’t think the two of you are really disagreeing. Guanxi is obviously historically embedded in Chinese culture, but it’s far from unique. Almost all aristocratic cultures rely on corruption via nepotism/connections to perpetuate themselves. It’s no different to the Roman patronage system for example.

      Social norms and behaviour are taught, inherited, and reinforced with continuity through generations. It’s hard to change how a society regulates access to and accumulation of resources, even with a cultural revolution (lowercase). At its core, guanxi comes from people wanting to secure the future of their children and trading favours to do so. We are also hard wired to favour those we are close to / in our perceived in-groups. It’s emergent from basic human motivators. I think it’s futile to assume we can re-educate the corpus of society to such a degree that we override those motivators. The best we can do imo is to remove the financial rewards people get from corruption, which requires dismantling / restructuring the liberal economy. Even then I think you’d be hard pressed to eradicate guanxi, it’s just that people won’t be able to enrich themselves to obscene levels.

      Maybe that’s defeatist idk

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        Literally everything Shipwreck said about bureaucracy in the PRC can apply to bureaucracy in every single state society of every single historical epoch. “Bureaucracy sucks because people with close ties to bureaucrats can leverage their connections to gain status, wealth, and power.” Cool, but what does this has to do specifically with the PRC?

        Is the PRC actually more plagued by bureaucracy than say India, a country located on the same continent with a slightly larger population, and a similiarish trajectory in history?