• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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    He’s gonna try his very best to cancel the midterm and all other elections for the simple reason that he enjoys playing dictator and “triggering the libs”, but I think that election stuff is all pretty “set in stone” constitutionally, and election results are something the capitalist class has pretty solid control over without cancelling them and still recognizes as a pressure valve for working class outrage.

    Alternatively, if either of those two premises fail (constitutional protections for elections and capitalist control of elections), then cancelling the midterm would be plausible in my view…but then why didn’t previous presidents do it?

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      You give a good argument of why a strategic, non-unhinged (hinged?) president wouldn’t cancel elections and then ask why the previous ones didn’t. It’s like you "but why male models"ed yourself. Or am I misunderstanding something?

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        Basically, in the last couple sentences, I am saying that even if someone rejects one or both of the two starting premises (i.e. that elections have strong constitutional protection, and that election results are under capitalist control), then why have midterms never been cancelled before, and if never before, then why now?

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          OK, so you’re asking, from the perspective of a lib who thinks Rs and Ds are actually opposed, why one hasn’t seized power previously. Hm. I think they’d say that all previous presidents really did love american norms and institutions in their own way and trump is a unique bad guy, first ruzzian president, etc.

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            OK, so you’re asking, from the perspective of a lib who thinks Rs and Ds are actually opposed, why one hasn’t seized power previously.

            Yeah pretty much.

            Hm. I think they’d say that all previous presidents really did love american norms and institutions in their own way and trump is a unique bad guy, first ruzzian president, etc.

            My response would be “no good presidents lol amerikkka amerikkka amerikkka”…or on a day where I’m not absolutely fucking out-of-control furious at life and 🧊, I would carefully but firmly explain that Trump is really the logical conclusion of the amerikkka project as opposed to some aberration.

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      but I think that election stuff is all pretty “set in stone” constitutionally

      Birthright citizenship is literally stated unequivocally in the constitution.

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        You’re referencing this executive order (Wikipedia), right? (For what follows: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, I am just some Internet dweeb!) I think the order has been struck down as unconstitutional. Not that ICE is gonna respect that, not that the feds are gonna follow the laws that they wrote unless it benefits the capitalists they serve. As I said, Trump will try to cancel midterms like he tried to cancel birthright citizenship, but he won’t be able to do it unless it is a matter of survival for the capitalists.

        And it is my view that the elections serve capitalists as a class, if not the current ruling faction of capital, since from their perspective, this is a democracy. If, say, PSL had a chance of winning, then elections would get yeeted into the Sun. But since both parties are captured, in particular the Democrats, then the occurrence of elections is safe for the system.

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          I think the order has been struck down as unconstitutional

          Nope. The supreme court (Partisan trump loyalists) are voting on it later this year.

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            The supreme court (Partisan trump loyalists) are voting on it later this year.

            Add that to the list of reasons to hate AmeriKKKa amerikkka amerikkka amerikkka

            But I still think that elections benefit the capitalist class enough to keep them around, at least as long as there’s no serious working class parties at the level of prominence of the Democrats.