My tinfoil hat theory is they want it to create a massive network of blackmail for civilians. If you speak out we’ll air out your dirty laundry of fart porn.
I don’t think this is necessary in the USA. They can just execute you and say they felt like they were in danger, and then some dirt-digger finds out you shoplifted when you were 17 and that’s that.
Chilling effect. If the government and corps know who you are, you’re less likely to celebrate insurance CEO’s getting retired or click like on leftist memes or even join an anti-capitalist meme group
Blackmail when that isn’t enough. It presents another chilling effect due to knowledge of it. And if actually used it would likely be used to turn people into informants and fed actors within groups rather than actually dissuade massive groups of people, still a big problem.
Criminal prosecution. People are going to say and do things that through tortured interpretations of laws are legal violations, real threats, whatever, and at some point these might be used in semi-targeted but broad ways (say they have facial ID of you at an anti-ICE protest, they go and arrest you and everyone else and then use your internet history to pile on additional charges besides rioting or assaulting cops or whatever as well as to slander you in the media if you ever become a cause celebre).
Intelligence gathering and network mapping. NSA is good but use of VPNs and other technologies due frustrate their ability to in bulk collection add names to every user. With required IDs they can create network maps and graphs of groups of people with total accuracy and assurance they know who is in the group, who they’re talking to, what other groups they have connections to out to 12 degrees, 20 degrees of separation. This will be critical for combating and controlling domestic insurgency if things continue to go the way they are.
I faintly recall some silicon valley CEO talking about how they should develop automated AI doxxing and blackmail. He worshipped Curtis Yarvin so no surprises there.
I keep meaning to look up this Yarvin guy, his name comes up again and again and no one knows who he is, apparently the sort of thought leader of fascist technology investors/silicon valley.
His apprentice Thiel might be one of the most powerful people in the country in many ways. I think it’s safe to presume the doge, the fake non congress approved agency whose leader was not approved by the senate as required in the constitution, that this doge exported all government data to Thiel’s faction’s data banks. On top of everything else, to have all the information that US government agencies have built up over time.
It’s mind boggling, if information is power these guys have too much. If we ever get a real populist in there, we should blow all of the data banks, all of them. Legally with due process blow them obviously I mean.
this is specifically why i always goon on my front porch. good luck blackmailing me for shit everyone already knows about and called the cops on me for
IDK, I think it’s more likely there will be a gooner rights movement and the blackmail just won’t work because nobody will care. Especially if the economy never recovers. What, you expect your average Joe the Plumber to get a job and have a family in this economy? that’s essentially never recovered since 2008? After the blue collar employment market collapses from the influx of refugees from the white collar employment market’s AI massacre? After the onlyfans market collapses once price conscious buyers wise up to the rise in real content creators hooking up chatbots to have fake conversations with their subs? If there’s a 95% chance that supporting a new content creator means you’re paying money to an AI company that’s running 1000s of fake content creator accounts, you might as well just buy a new gaming GPU and do this locally. No reasonable person will expect you to not goon daily, as the economic infrastructure does not allow you any other choice.
No, you can call their blackmail bluff, and the neet unions will back you nomatter what weird shit your into.
then let the world know of my weird kinks. i don’t care about all the weird kinks you can blackmail me with, i will hold my head up high knowing i wasn’t ashamed enough to bow down to that kind of blackmail, and that’s far more to be proud of than the shame of whatever weird kinks i have
one of the ways out of this (and ai deepfake hell, for that matter) is for everybody to stop caring about other peoples’ business and victim blaming them if they get exposed.
My tinfoil hat theory is they want it to create a massive network of blackmail for civilians. If you speak out we’ll air out your dirty laundry of fart porn.
I don’t think this is necessary in the USA. They can just execute you and say they felt like they were in danger, and then some dirt-digger finds out you shoplifted when you were 17 and that’s that.
Yeah but that’s a lot more expensive to scale at the mass level
They have that already. And by they I mean adtech. And by adtech I mean online advertising platforms in general.
Chilling effect. If the government and corps know who you are, you’re less likely to celebrate insurance CEO’s getting retired or click like on leftist memes or even join an anti-capitalist meme group
Blackmail when that isn’t enough. It presents another chilling effect due to knowledge of it. And if actually used it would likely be used to turn people into informants and fed actors within groups rather than actually dissuade massive groups of people, still a big problem.
Criminal prosecution. People are going to say and do things that through tortured interpretations of laws are legal violations, real threats, whatever, and at some point these might be used in semi-targeted but broad ways (say they have facial ID of you at an anti-ICE protest, they go and arrest you and everyone else and then use your internet history to pile on additional charges besides rioting or assaulting cops or whatever as well as to slander you in the media if you ever become a cause celebre).
Intelligence gathering and network mapping. NSA is good but use of VPNs and other technologies due frustrate their ability to in bulk collection add names to every user. With required IDs they can create network maps and graphs of groups of people with total accuracy and assurance they know who is in the group, who they’re talking to, what other groups they have connections to out to 12 degrees, 20 degrees of separation. This will be critical for combating and controlling domestic insurgency if things continue to go the way they are.
Thank you for articulating it so well. I feel that ppl are more likely to take this seriously if it is spelt out like this.
I faintly recall some silicon valley CEO talking about how they should develop automated AI doxxing and blackmail. He worshipped Curtis Yarvin so no surprises there.
Sounds like Thiel who has been saying stuff like since at least 2014 but could be any of them at this point.
I keep meaning to look up this Yarvin guy, his name comes up again and again and no one knows who he is, apparently the sort of thought leader of fascist technology investors/silicon valley.
His apprentice Thiel might be one of the most powerful people in the country in many ways. I think it’s safe to presume the doge, the fake non congress approved agency whose leader was not approved by the senate as required in the constitution, that this doge exported all government data to Thiel’s faction’s data banks. On top of everything else, to have all the information that US government agencies have built up over time.
It’s mind boggling, if information is power these guys have too much. If we ever get a real populist in there, we should blow all of the data banks, all of them. Legally with due process blow them obviously I mean.
He’s a dork. The chapos did an episode on yarvin: https://youtu.be/O96GTgLOV6A
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
this is specifically why i always goon on my front porch. good luck blackmailing me for shit everyone already knows about and called the cops on me for
There’s old comrade godlessworm, out there on the porch cranking the hog again.
" ‘again’? i don’t think they’ve ever stopped"
IDK, I think it’s more likely there will be a gooner rights movement and the blackmail just won’t work because nobody will care. Especially if the economy never recovers. What, you expect your average Joe the Plumber to get a job and have a family in this economy? that’s essentially never recovered since 2008? After the blue collar employment market collapses from the influx of refugees from the white collar employment market’s AI massacre? After the onlyfans market collapses once price conscious buyers wise up to the rise in real content creators hooking up chatbots to have fake conversations with their subs? If there’s a 95% chance that supporting a new content creator means you’re paying money to an AI company that’s running 1000s of fake content creator accounts, you might as well just buy a new gaming GPU and do this locally. No reasonable person will expect you to not goon daily, as the economic infrastructure does not allow you any other choice.
No, you can call their blackmail bluff, and the neet unions will back you nomatter what weird shit your into.
then let the world know of my weird kinks. i don’t care about all the weird kinks you can blackmail me with, i will hold my head up high knowing i wasn’t ashamed enough to bow down to that kind of blackmail, and that’s far more to be proud of than the shame of whatever weird kinks i have
they want to track every single dissident.
Stick it to the man by switching to vintage Playboy mags purchased in cash from an antiques shop.
I dont think they got 50ft tall anthrophomorphic hyena women in those
there’s old B-movies about giant women, you might be surprised.
Not hyena women though
one of the ways out of this (and ai deepfake hell, for that matter) is for everybody to stop caring about other peoples’ business and victim blaming them if they get exposed.