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I wouldn’t say it is gonna be a Nazi phase, I am guessing it will be a fascist Italy phase, that, however, will not last because Trump is a fucking idiot
Interesting, you are the first one to disagree in this way, most comments have been “there Nazis since ages” I do think the facism over there has been brewing for a long time, but the positive references to actual historical Nazis are something they only stated with the newest trump legislation to become mainstream
What I mean is things like elon with his salute, bovin with his coat and trump with his wishes for generals like the ones who served Hitler.
Obligatory, the Nazis were inspired by the u.s.
Still, the US helped fight the Nazis in the end, as even a imperialist state is better than a Nazi one
Going from “only imperialist” to “imperialist nazi” doesn’t seem like a big difference. UK and France weren’t exactly known for thinking the natives of their colonies were humans.
Tell the Jews in Nazi Germany that its not a big difference if they get send into the gaskammer.
Your ignorance of the differences of imperialists vs. Nazis is mindbogglingly hard to grasp for a German.
May visit the concentration camps if you are I the region. Visiting those historical sites shows you the differences of Nazis to imperialists quite well.
i think that happened years ago
So Obama for example is a Nazi in your eyes?
I think the differentiation between imperialist, facist and Nazis sharpens your argument. And the positive alignment with the actual historical Nazis is something which only became main stream with trump.
Me when someone suggests calling my senator to oppose fascism
You only just noticed this now?
Concentration camps let’s gooooooooo. /s
And realizing you are letting all of it happen
ALL THE EVIL NEEDS FOR YOU TO DO IS -.
NOTHING!
Do you know me? From where do you get this info?
I live by the principle of “der hauptfeind steht im eigenen land” (the main enemy is in ones own country) Ergo I put my main focus on politics here.
I demonstrate for peace, try to organize people to get off of american platforms, am in an anti-facist organization.
You expect me to fly to the US and demonstrate there? I dont think they would let me in.
Ever wonder why America likes to go to war so much? Check out who benefits from the manufacture and sale of armaments. It’s a straight line.
Ever wonder why America likes to go to war so much?
Years ago I read a good chunk of the “Discourses on the First Decade of Titus Livius” by Machiavelli. At the beginning he discusses where and how you should establish Rome, and what are the consequences of those choices. Tldr from what I remember, he says that if you want to have a populace that’s always willing to fight in aggressive wars:
- your plebs should be poor, but not starving. Too rich and they get lazy, too poor and they’ll only care about survival, but if you hit the right mark they’ll never be satisfied and can be easily persuaded to go to war for money
- your citizens should be armed and trained to use weapons
- you should support immigration in order to always have fuel for the war machine
- use religion to enforce obedinece and discipline
- the state should be rich so it can fund the wars
- encourage controlled class conflict (plebe tribune Vs senate) in order to limit both groups, and so the armed plebs can blow off steam instead of getting revolutionary ideas
- take care to always have an external enemy, or an internal one will appear
- don’t over reach when expanding your territories or you won’t be able to manage all of it
nazis literally based the design of the holocaust on the american genocides and reservation system.
they taught the nazis how to nazi.
they just arent as subtle about it anymore.
That’s a lot of learning from the British Empire too then.
And from that other moustached Austrian/German, Ed Bernays, on how to sell the genocide to the public. Top “advertising or marketing” [“crystalizing public opinion”/“manufacturing consent”] you got there, USA.
Yeah, the British invented concentration camps. Or at least used them in the Boer wars, I guess they probably weren’t the first to gather people in camps to deal with some portion of them running a resistance.
The Nazi innovation was the gas chambers.
jim crow laws/segregation, is what nazi took from the americans.
Awww, we’be been sliding for over 40 years.
And now they arrived
Depending on your pov, the US has always been in its nazi phase. Ask the natives or people of color.
So much so that the US inspired the Nazis
Germans borrowed it from us, rode it hard, and then cleaned it off hoping that we wouldn’t remember that they still had it.
But then we saw it sitting in the corner and offered to help them fix it up. They said nah, let’s just forget about it. We said that we really wanted to fix it and that it would be a fun project to work on together. They told us to take our drunk asses home, so we got mad and dragged it back home.
But here we are! We’ve got it back and we finally fixed it! Now we’re practicing donuts while the tech crew is building the ramp. We keep talking about how we’re gonna do the biggest jump ever with a triple backflip, and everyone said that we’re gonna chicken out. The extra-concerning part is that we never bothered with a landing ramp.
Nah man, we’re gonna jump this thing straight into the stadium seats. We’re revving that engine and y’all better hope that we loosened the nuts enough for the wheels to fall off, or that the sugar people are putting in the gas tank works so that we crash out halfway.
Especially those idiots who paid extra for front row seats.
then cleaned it off hoping that we wouldn’t remember that they still had it
They said nah, let’s just forget about it.
Except Germany has a rather unique culture of remembrance about it. I’ll never forget the school trip to the Bergen-Belsen memorial site, that historical video where they used shovel loaders to push hundreds of corpses in mass graves which we just stood in front of is permanently engraved in my head. This culture is one of the reasons US Jews who once fled from Germany, or their descendants, are now increasingly getting out of the US and regain german citizenship through Article 116 of our constitution with a simple letter to the Embassy (usually followed by an apology letter including an invitation from said Embassy). It’s quite the irony.
i’ve always been conflicted because germany clearly seemed to be really all in on the culture of remembrance thing but then stuff like what happened to philipp auerbach in “reformed” germany and a ton of nazis joining nato and the tolerance of afd makes me reconsider
Hmmm good point that shows a couple of the numerous flaws in my analogy, so allow me to use mental gymnastics to support my analogy.
Germany continues teaching how it was used and the dangers of anyone using it. They’re not pretending like they never used it, they’re just hoping that by hiding it under a tarp and only showing the damages it caused will prevent anyone from peeking under the tarp and going, “you sure? It looks pretty cool, still.”
I am half tempted to research my family tree and see if Germany would take me. But I am too poor to move, and…well, I kinda want my homeland to not suck. If my blood can help the tree of liberty…well, maybe I can overcome cowardice and fight.
Cannot know who I really am, until the call for enlistment has arrived.
Actually, today’s Germany is quite happy to take anyone with some sort of qualification, no matter your family tree. If you are Jewish or not, that won’t really make a difference to immigration requirements, as far as I know.
However, there is quite a bit of antisemitism going on in the Muslim communities, I’m afraid. As a German I’m really proud that our country is so open and welcoming to refugees and immigrants, but unfortunately people don’t just drop all of their own prejudices when crossing the border.
Also, the rise of the extremist AfD party is a very worrying development. These Nazi thugs basically want to copy Trump’s policies and they also want Germany to leave the EU. If they somehow get voted into power, you would definitely regret having moved here.
Fascism is just capitalism in crisis, imperial boomerang shit.
It’s just visible now to Americans now that the guns are being turned inward
Memes like this usually resonate because they capture a feeling of uncertainty rather than making a literal statement. Sometimes humor is just a way people process anxiety about rapid change.
entering? we were alway in the nazi phase, they were just figuring how to make it look appealable for decades. us is the most right wing of all western countries, thats why nazis from other countries flock to the states.
Man 1946 was wild
I’d say it’s more of its neoconfederate phase. Turns out leaving a seditious rotten core as part of your government isn’t a good idea. But hey, at least you are now indivisible with fascism.
