Apologies in advance for further inundating everybody’s headspace with celebrity slop, but I wanted to blab about this:

I generally have no faith in public personalities to hold any convictions at all, so it has been refreshing for Hasan to adhere to his position against voting for Gruesome Newscum. I don’t at all mean to imply that he’s perfect, or that people should look to him as a leader in any respect, it’s just nice to see something like that happening and getting broad exposure. Feels good.

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    The Hasan hater cohort

    I have him on for hours a day and it’s not out of animosity. I give him credit and indeed have in this thread, writing all critics off as “haters” is extremely parasocial behavior.

    The bits of idealistic liberalism he often regurgitates serve as the peanut butter required for baby leftists in the west to swallow the pills that end up shattering their naïve worldview.

    And this is garbage. Communists disdain to hide their aims and your idea about how left-radicalization works – besides being condescending to the point of misanthropy – is completely failing to appreciate the fundamental differences between Marxists and the irony-poisoned, nihilistic freaks on the extreme right, for whom recruitment based on lies makes more sense.

    Hasan understands that if you only run defense for socialist countries, libs will immediately dismiss what you have to say as “shilling for authoritarianism” and never consider the rest of your message.

    This isn’t the problem and if being a hardline socialist remotely resembles this in your view, then your mindset is totally backwards. I don’t give a shit about him not cheerleading for whichever country hard enough, that’s such a terminally online view of what politics is, I care about him misrepresenting Marxist theory and thereby hampering people’s political education beyond receiving a laundry list of berniecrat and antizionist talking points.

    Us being critical of him supports his role

    Then what are you even complaining about? I’m helping him, right?

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      writing all critics off as “haters” is extremely parasocial behavior.

      detractors, people who dont like him, overzealous critics, whatever you want to call it. “haters” is succinct.

      Communists disdain to hide their aims and your idea about how left-radicalization works

      When you read the letter and not the spirit of the text. Indeed, we do not hide our aims: to build a stateless, classless, moneyless society. One of my aims is not to get myself socially ostracized for giving my real opinions on the DPRK before I’ve had time to let people understand that I am a kind, rational, well-adjusted person. The rapport you lose is more valuable than being honest for honesty’s sake. You do not have exclusive control over the conversation, nor are people required to hear you out or talk to you again. These are basic social skills, you speak to your audience, present phrasing favorable to their ideals, and find common ground.

      Seriously, have you actually talked to your reactionary or turbolib peers IRL about this stuff? You out here quoting one line from a pamphlet released in 1848 and treating it like scripture. Oppose book worship.

      I don’t give a shit about him not cheerleading for whichever country hard enough, that’s such a terminally online view of what politics is, I care about him misrepresenting Marxist theory and thereby hampering people’s political education beyond receiving a laundry list of berniecrat and antizionist talking points.

      I don’t know where you live, but here in the imperial core, people’s political education is that Stalin killed a quadrillion people and that you get immediately executed for watching western movies in the DPRK. This is inseparable in their minds from your ideology. But yeah, these people would most certainly engage meaningfully with Marxist theory without addressing that…unless you plan on peanut butter pilling them by not naming what belief system your ideas originate from?

      Clearing the minefields that come up in every conversation about socialism is a major assist in us being able to proliferate our views. Again, Hasan is not an expert in Marxism, why do you expect him to do your work for you? Do you really think him giving an overview of demcent or the mass line with these brainworms still intact would have any utility?

      You are the one who comes across as terminally online. What if we had all entertainers recite our holy scripture in their performances? Surely, that would result in socialism being built and not cause people to watch other shit.

      Then what are you even complaining about? I’m helping him, right?

      I’m trying to have a polite discussion about a popular media figure’s effect on the public consciousness. Did I say something to set you off? I have no idea why you are being so antagonistic.