• Clbull@lemmy.world
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    Neville Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler by letting him remilitarize the Rhineland, annex Austria and invade Czechoslovakia. Look at how well that worked out.

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    Still not my favorite leader, but Macron says the right things wrt transatlantic relationships these days. I hope other EU countries’ leaders can put their pride* away and go along.

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      Agree and agree. At least the man is uncomplicated; its right on the face of the US and will never bend down. Neither will I.

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        France approved the 5% GDP expenditure requested by Trump to all NATO countries, he’s only pretending not to bend down because of public opinion

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    I’ve been saying this since about 2017, about 18 months after the orange child rapist was elected the first time.
    Any country that elects a person that’s obviously stupid, 100% corrupt, and completely evil cannot be trusted.

    Boris Johnson is another shitbag of corrupt disgustingness, but not as bad americas top paedo. I’m English, and I never wanted to leave the EU but I can totally understand if the EU said “Nope” just based on bozo Boris alone.

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      Any country that elects a person that’s obviously stupid, 100% corrupt, and completely evil cannot be trusted.

      But it’s never the whole country; usually less than 50% of voters.

      And IMO (and I’d appreciate your insights, since I’m not British) Brexit is a perfect example of how easy it is to manipulate a people with targeted content mostly on social media. Of course that sort of propaganda has always been a thing, but social media put it on overdrive, and most of it is perfectly legal even for politicians during elections.

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        This is the point; you’re completely right. If every time a country makes a mistake they are shunned by those around them then those who are trying to disrupt progressive politics are succeeding. Johnson was elected by far fewer than 50% of the population; indeed in that election (2019) progressive parties won 52.8% of the vote, and under any decent election system we would then have had a progressive coalition. At the very worst we’d have still been within the single market and customs union, and in all probability they would have been a confirmatory referendum (which would have doubtless left us within the European Union).

        However it was over 50% of voters that voted for tRump, and they knew what they were getting. So I fear the US has gone beyond a threshold.

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    France ought to know better than any country that appeasement never turns out well when it comes to fascists.

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      That’s literally what he’s doing with the far right here though. He’s very much a “both sides” guy, it’s just that the situation in the US is too blatant to ignore. But he’s leading us down the exact same path internally.

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    Are politicians really that stupid? Why must that be said? At alll. Ever. Water is wet. Shitting your pants is warm for a moment.

    Man, i really hope i can kill one of these fuckers in the local uprisings before everything goes to shit.