David Cameron fucked a pig in his frat, the event was called “Piggate” when it was leaked to the press. The European fraternities are just more up-market, called “societies” and “clubs” and styled in overtly upper class ways compared to what the americans style them as. It’s the same thing though.
Aren’t frats present at most colleges, and aren’t they much easier to get into?
OP isn’t asking about “clubs for rich people” which seems what you’re reducing this to be. Frats focus much more on providing housing to members as well, don’t they?
And it really seems more like an Anglo thing. I mentioned the boarding schools to begin with, because I knew of Eton and the English with their weird stuff. But that’s not the same as having these “societies” at every university - and especially not for whole of western Europe.
Compared to American frats they’re quite different though. The societies and clubs like that (which are mainly an English thing) are more like an expanded skull & bones society, as far as I understand it. American frats, from what I know of them, are present at basically every college and much more accessible that the secret societies for the wealthiest kids in England - or whatever the variant is in other parts of western Europe.
I’ve never heard of Gamma Phi Delta in Berlin College (because I think colleges are very much an Anglo thing?) having some big hazing scandal or whatever.
If the argument is just “clubs for rich people exist” then yeah? But that’s not really helpful for OOPs question.
David Cameron fucked a pig in his frat, the event was called “Piggate” when it was leaked to the press. The European fraternities are just more up-market, called “societies” and “clubs” and styled in overtly upper class ways compared to what the americans style them as. It’s the same thing though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Gaveston_Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullingdon_Club
Calling a toff club a “frat” sounds weird. It would be like if John Cena started talking about opening up the bonnet of his car.
Yeah it is weird using the same word but functionally they do the same things and serve the same purpose.
Aren’t frats present at most colleges, and aren’t they much easier to get into?
OP isn’t asking about “clubs for rich people” which seems what you’re reducing this to be. Frats focus much more on providing housing to members as well, don’t they?
And it really seems more like an Anglo thing. I mentioned the boarding schools to begin with, because I knew of Eton and the English with their weird stuff. But that’s not the same as having these “societies” at every university - and especially not for whole of western Europe.
Compared to American frats they’re quite different though. The societies and clubs like that (which are mainly an English thing) are more like an expanded skull & bones society, as far as I understand it. American frats, from what I know of them, are present at basically every college and much more accessible that the secret societies for the wealthiest kids in England - or whatever the variant is in other parts of western Europe.
I’ve never heard of Gamma Phi Delta in Berlin College (because I think colleges are very much an Anglo thing?) having some big hazing scandal or whatever.
If the argument is just “clubs for rich people exist” then yeah? But that’s not really helpful for OOPs question.
That’s prob in the UK, in Spain i’ve never heard about anything like that
edit: nvm, they do exist, though I think it’s much more lighthearted than in other places, unless maybe with old super rich unis