• BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today
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    Nazis were inspired by America and wanted to be just like America. Now we have Israel which is one step ahead of America and two steps ahead of the Nazis.

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    Bet they will start encouraging rape of enemy civilians again. Cause that’s just the kind of show they are running now.

    No honor.

  • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    Eh… Not really. Dontiz’ orders to the Uboat arm were that the destruction of enemy vessels was not to be hampered by life saving activities. However, there were Kriegsmarine officers that did go out of their way to help crews of merchant vessels they had sunk. Captain Hans Langsdorff of the Graf Spee was one such officer, although he was a skimmer.

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    I miss when “worse than Hitler” was something patently untrue that people said when they were being overly dramatic.

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    Well, it’s not Nazi Germany…but…the USA is definitely headed there. Then again, when the Nazis stopped you in the street, they would at least ask for your papers first. Apparently ICE and BP think that’s too woke or something.

    • just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Nazi germany was against white people cuz european jews were/are practically white. That’s why they needed the badges to fully distinguish.

      Today, they just look at the skin color or if they are wearing a hijab or other cues to decide who is an “immigrant” or not

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    Reminds me of the old (apocryphal) story of Stalin, FDR, and Churchill debating what to do with the Nazi officers’ corps after their defeat.

    "The German General Staff, [Stalin] said, must be liquidated. The whole force of Hitler’s mighty armies depended upon about 50,000 officers and technicians. If these were rounded up and shot at the end of the war, German military strength would be extirpated.” When Churchill angrily declared he would be no party to such mass retribution, the President quipped that he would act as mediator, and suggested the compromise of shooting only 49,000. In heat, Churchill left the room. Stalin himself fetched him back, assuring him it was all a jest.

    The tendency to treat enemy soldiers as honorable adversaries while foreign civilians are resources to be exploited or speed bumps to be flattened is extremely fascist.

    What separates Hitler and Hegseth isn’t their army’s treatment of survivors of a military operation, but their view of their targets as military or civilian. Hegseth knows he’s targeting civilians and treats them just like a German military commander would treat other civilians.

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      Stalin would gleefully have shot all 50,000, and some bystanders if there was ammo left over.

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      Wonder if Churchill would be equally upset if instead of nazis they were the people of one of the races he openly considered inferior, including but not limited to: Black people, arabs, indians, the chinese, the irish and indigenous people.

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      How many killed, tortured, raped, colonized, displaced, etc. by the British and French? British and French during WW2 were arguably much worse than Germany. History just likes to put a lense on Hitler and not Churchill because Churchill oppressed black and brown people whereas Hitler oppressed white people, which is a big no-no in society.

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        I mean, yeah. It goes far beyond just Britain and France though. They want you to forget about the military dictatorships they upheld in Spain and South Korea too. They also want you to forget that the fascist Empire of Japan killed far more people during world war 2 than any other nation, and by most counts actually killed more people by themselves than was killed in the European theater entirely. They slaughtered entire nations.

        And then you can talk about the American actions that ended the pacific war. The atrocities committed by both America and Japan on occupied nations. It’s a mess. Both of those states committed a littany of horrific acts of violence on millions of people. There is no good side or bad side. Only the side that surrendered.

        History is this way for the most part. It’s deeply unsatisfying. But the lie was that there are any good wars to begin with. We only regard the holocaust as so unique because of the incidental details of how it was carried out. The rounding up, the trains, the gas chambers, the whole industry of it. But it was not all that unique an event in truth. In the late 19th and early 20th century the Armenian genocide came about in a similar manner and functioned in a similar way. There are many similarities in genocide. The holocaust exists as an archetypal series of events mostly because it was documented by the modern super powers of the world. We remember it because they want us to. They dont want us to remember the Nakba or the atrocities carried out by the military dictatorships they upheld across the world.

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        I think it’s also history is written by the survivors, so not nazi germany.

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    yeah, but keep in mind that this is only true because the nazis werent sinking soviet submarines in ww2.