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Iran should offer to open the strait in exchange for the USA handing over trump and his sons
Can we please add Vance, Johnson, ivanka, kushner, Clarence Thomas, Kavanaugh, and kid rock to make sure they accept?
Dig up Cheney’s corpse and send it with em.
They’re a country, not a toxic waste dump.
On second thought hold the Kid Rock, we want Iran to say yes after all
And anyone with a net worth above $2 million
Tbh that needs to be higher, because that’s really not that much money these days. That’s just pretty much anyone who’s somewhat older and has a retirement account that’s been managed decently well, and a house.
That’s not much, can barely retire on that.
That’s an incredible deal for shareholder value.
They probably want Bolton too
Deal.
John or Michael?
Know what? Can’t be too safe, we send both.
Yes.
Or the complete, unredacted Epstein files
Or both
lol that would be incredible. And a fantastic deal, to boot.
Don’t threaten me with a good time
Also what’s in for Iran? Not fair throwing out garbage at their door.
Iran isn’t my friend, so I’d happily shovel that shit to them. Get it out of my house too at the same time.
How to win at war:
- Start negotiating with foe
- Bomb foe during negotiations
- Declare victory, tell friends to fuck off
- ?
- Beg friends for help, because you have lost both tactical and strategic control of the situation. Threaten partners for not helping.
But what if the foe is really the Epstein files?
Then you have lost both the battle and the war.
And knowing is half the battle.
Then it was a stupid plan even from an electoral point of view.
I have an ongoing half joking bet since the 2nd day in the war that Trump will be talking about the parties in the island to distract people from the side effects of the war by June.
Sending the price of gas to the stratosphere, replacing the petrodollar schema by petroyuan, increasing the military spending by a huge margin, and antagonizing the entire world aren’t enough of a distraction to guarantee people won’t be thinking about it in the elections.
But doing that with 9 months of time for it to impact all the business and family budgets in your country is.
Double down on the distraction.
Ooh look, we’ve got Marines to deploy!
The real enemy was the secrets we made along the way.
Don’t forget 6. Profit
oh that is deff not going to be the endstate of this.
Threaten partners for not helping.
Threaten partners with tariffs. The same thing you’ve been slapping them with for absolutely no reason since you came into office. The same things that these partners now just expect to have to deal with when your mood changes. The same thing that courts have decided are illegal and that you can’t actually enforce.
He also threatened to invade some of us.
And that was before the Strait of Hormuz situation.
He can’t convince former allies to help out of goodwill and solidarity because he’s done everything possible to destroy that goodwill since he came into office.
He also can’t convince them to help out of fear of the consequences either, because he has already imposed those consequences.
In addition, even if he had a threat or a reward that was meaningful, the one thing that’s clear about Trump is that he never keeps his word. He doesn’t even adhere to treaties that are legally binding. So, if he promised something extremely valuable, he probably wouldn’t deliver. OTOH, if he threatened something extremely dire, he would probably chicken out.
- Profit
I live in New York City.
Besides the greed, the pedophilia, the racism, and the narcissism, the biggest problem people here have is he sheer, overwhelming stupidity.
Writer Fran Leibowitz put it best. “You don’t know anybody as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don’t.”
The tangerine turd bit off more than he could chew, just like his employer blyatimir putrid.
The US war machine is expending itself like a senior citizen at a strip club.
It’s awful to witness and truly miserable for everyone involved. But give Americans a week and they’ll stumble back in clutching another fist full of Social Security cash to do it again.
You want to call these goons out as bad at strategy or wasteful of precious natural resources. But neither the US nor Russia seem to have a shortage of blood or treasure they’re willing to throw away for another cheap thrill. This is it. The twilight of empire. What happens if they don’t finish all over Central Europe and the Middle East, like they’ve been lusting after for 40 years?
You think Trump or Putin care what happens to their kids? Their grandkids? Nevermind all the young people their explosions of pent up unrealized empire ruin in the process.
This is what all those decades of Cold Warring was meant for. The grim harvest we’ve been growing since Truman dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and kicked off 70 years of intercontinental hate.
More like it.
USA USA USA USA USA. Désillusion is crazy.
Québécois spotté, préparons la chasse-galerie pour envahir l’Iran!
“You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all, because we don’t need it. We have a lot of oil.”
-Trump 3 weeks into the war he decided to do
Epic Failure
Epstein Failure
TACO
Before it was oil now its checks notes to protect billionaire pedofiles investments. Man we really are the bad guys…
No olive branch, only arrows
Operation Epstein
FurryFuryNo no no furries are good people!
true
The world’s biggest military budget! 🇺🇲🦅
But half of it is spent on overpriced fast food… 🍔🍟
epic furry*
Leave furries out of this!
" the operation had been mistakenly labeled Operation Epic Furry on a first-draft document circulated through the Defense Department’s secure email system."
So they expected it to be a purely infosec war?
Ahhh!
Having the biggest numbers and shiniest toys doesn’t make up for the fact that most if not all of the competent leadership is gone.
Make America Grovel Again…
Then say “No”.
Make America Gravel Again
I think it’s more NATO get yer fuckin act together. We don’t even need this oil you do.
This had to be done, so help police this straight now that the war is done, because if you can’t defend an asset you can’t own it.
This is governance 101 and if you don’t have a monopoly on power you definitionally are not a government.
Really didn’t have to be done.
Thanks I’ll take your opinion as gospel.
You could instead just defend your point, I mean you’re the one who said it had to happen, so why not say why?
The reason why I am not defending my point is because there’s no win condition.
It is simply fuel for an ideological cult captured by corporate misinformation.
I might as well say what I just said because it will get the same reaction.
You may be the dumbest person I’ve seen on Lemmy
ThE oNlY ReASoN I WoNT DeFEnD mY PoInT Is…
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
now that the war is done
This is the song that never ends, it just goes on and on, my friends…
Could have pulled out back then we just didn’t.
Lmao.
What the fuck is the point of attacking a country if all you’re accomplishing is pissing them off?
Taxpayer money was wasted and new toys for the military need to be bought with new taxpayer money.
Name checks out
Oh the war is done now? Doesn’t seem like it! Also seems like we did need that oil when you look at oil prices and the economy in general…
You seem to live by your username.
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