• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I dual boot SteamOS and Windows 10 IoT LTSC mostly because there are still some game developers that can’t figure out how to enable anti-cheat for Linux.

    And does Windows rewrite my boot sequence every time?

    Sure, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

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    I used rufus to put windows on an sd card. The steam deck can boot from the card if you hold a volume button when you power on. Valve provides drivers for both lcd and oled. It’s worked perfectly since maybe a month after each model came out. It touches nothing. Rufus is the only trick, since microsoft is the uncooperative part.

    I did it for modern warfare 2019. It wasn’t worth it. If you boot into windows every six months, you get to update for an hour. If you get logged out of steam, you should plug in a mouse and keyboard. It’s my only windows install since 8 came out which was my only attempt since 98. And it only convinces me to stay away.

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    This is perfect, this is what a steam deck is built for! Doing whatever the fuck you want with the hardware even if people don’t like it

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    You don’t even need to “pirate” Windows anymore. You can download an ISO from Microsoft’s website, install it, and when it asks for your license key, you click “I don’t have one”, and that’s the end of it. If you look in the activation settings, it’ll say “not activated”, but nothing will ever become of it. This even works if you install it as Pro. It’s not like the Windows XP/7 days where you’d get a 60 day scare timer. They just don’t seem to care anymore, or maybe all that telemetry they siphon up from you is just that much more valuable.

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      PSA

      If you see Windows 11 online DO NOT DOWNLOAD IT!!!

      It will install a virus called Windows 11 and it will run Windows 11 on your PC!!!

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      You’re right, they don’t care.

      The very fact they no longer care about enforcing licensing anymore is itself the strongest evidence that selling Windows as a product is not where the money is.

      They want you on their operating system for any price - including zero -because once you are there that’s when the advertising, cloud service upsell and data monetisisation can begin.

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      Even Windows 7 actually didn’t care if you had no key.

      You could leave it unactivated forever and the worst thing that would happen is it would have a “Activate windows” watermark message bottom right over the desktop, and it wouldn’t let you change the personalization settings eg theming (oh no).

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        Never had to pay for a key anyway. I just hopped on eBay and looked for machines that were “for parts only” where the seller took a very nice picture of the bottom of the computer.

        It was very nice of them to share that software with me once they were done using it.

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          I miss all those super weird XP editions seemingly made by colourblind and hyper 8 year olds (at least in taste). Like rockets, gold or muscle car themed distros.

          Nowadays all themes seems so… adult and boring. Tried to find some weird stuff in Plasma but alas

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            That’s not related only to windows themes. It’s an overall design shift. Cars, phones, businesses, PC parts, everything has been shifting towards this adult, boring, sleek, corporate, uniform, grey look.

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            Hannah Montana Linux OS keeping this proud tradition going singlehandedly. ✊

            Edit: not singlehandedly, just learned of the two other parts of the holy Linux trifecta, RebeccaBlackOS & Justin Bieber Linux Distro

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      Microsoft missed the mobile boat by a long shot.

      Windows is ever shrinking as people don’t buy computers like they used to since phones can do what they need.

      This means that for Microsoft growing Windows user base is a non starter. They are well into the extract portion of the product lifecycle. The os now only exists to support the products that still make money are extract what can be extracted from a shrinking user base.

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      And if you really do want to activate it (which is kinda worth it because some system settings are locked behind it), Massgrave takes 2 seconds.

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      To add on to what everybody else said, it’s probably not worth the time/money to have a team of developers play cat and mouse with pirates for the rest of time when they make the large majority of their sales off OEMs. Dell, HP, and Lenovo probably make up something like 80% of Windows license sales. And if it’s a business buying them, then they are also making money off of M365, Azure, and Intune subscriptions. Losing the sales from people who build their own PCs is chump change to them.

      You know, and all the data slurping and ad sales etc etc.

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      It’s pretty annoying though. I’m sure there’s some way to remove it but until you activate there’s a watermark that shows up over every single application telling you to activate.

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      Honestly I kind of wish Valve didn’t release the drivers. Make people actually work to get that abomination working if that’s what they really want.

      If they want it badly enough they should have to write the drivers themselves.

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        Make people actually work to get that abomination working if that’s what they really want.

        If they want it badly enough they should have to write the drivers themselves.

        now the rubber band is on the other claw!

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        Eh, I really like the hacker mentality that Valve has for their hardware. They just want people to use it, because they know that the best place to get games for the hardware - whether it’s running Linux or Windows - is Steam. And the more people find fun ways to abuse the hardware, the more press it gets, the more people want it, etc. etc. Great for Valve, great for the customers, great for the gaming industry.

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    I mean, if you just absolutely had to play a Linux-hating kernel anti cheat game, then install a small-as-possible partition for Windows, dual boot, and stay in Steam OS every single moment you’re doing anything else but that game.

    But most Windows-on-a-Steam-Deck people I’ve encountered just drive Windows all the time. I will never understand.

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      My only issue with it is that some people install windows the moment they get the SD out of the box. No interest in even trying SteamOS, they consider it just wasting time before they can get windows installed and have the Deck “ready to use”.

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      I drive Windows mostly on my Deck but only because Marathon doesn’t run on Proton (yet).

      Otherwise I always ran SteamOS for Chivalry 2.

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    This really goes against the whole purpose of buying a Steam Deck considering on Windows you will have a poorer user experience due to the lack of Gamescope and Windows’ very poor non touch friendly UI. Maybe there’s somethings that can make it better but it won’t ever be as good as just using Steam OS or any Linux distro set up to use Gamescope and proton.

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      One of the great things about the steam deck much like Linux is that it won’t stop you just because something is stupid and a bad idea.

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      I do regret paying for windows once years ago. I always hated Microsoft a lot, but truly never thought they could sink as low as they have.

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    I bought an ROG Ally X specifically because it runs Windows. Steam just virtualizes Windows anyway. If you don’t know how to whip Windows into your bitch that’s on you.

    It’s hot garbage, learn to recycle.

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      Or just use the thing that’s more functional, more user friendly, and isn’t garbage that doesn’t need to be ‘whipped into shape’. Will never understand the fucking Stockholm syndrome some people have for Microsoft’s bullshit.

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        Or just use the thing that’s more functional

        I couldn’t have said it better myself.

        My hardware doesn’t work on Linux. It’s not Stockholm. I’ve been using Linux for 39 years.

        Steamdeck is emulating Windows. It’s got computational overhead and compatibility issues for many games.

        Consumers didn’t make it this way. I spent my life loving Linux while being a gamer who had to use Windows.

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          I’ve been using Linux for 39 years.

          That’s quite the achievement considering the first Linux kernel was released in 1991, 35 years ago.

          Steamdeck is emulating Windows.

          Again, it is not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

          No code emulation or virtualization occurs

          You don’t actually understand any of this do you?

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      Meh, I’d prefer if they all run Linux, so that we dont have to pay more for the privilege of being data mined. We need to stop supporting these monopolies, they push out such hot garbage software.

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        It’s an additional layer of abstraction.

        Many games that run on Windows do not perform the same, and sometimes don’t run at all on Linux or wine.

        Linux enthusiasts used to know what they’re talking about instead of pasting wrong info about my own hardware.

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          Linux enthusiasts used to know what they’re talking about instead of pasting wrong info about my own hardware.

          You’re annoyed at yourself for being wrong about the Steam Deck using virtualization to run Windows games? Like, do you know what “virtualization” means? Are you just stringing together words and hoping they form coherent sentences?

          I pasted a link to the Wikipedia article for Wine, which you – having “used Linux for 39 years” – surely know is what Steam Deck uses to run Windows applications. Which part of it is incorrect?