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The killing off of the majority of the human race is an unrequited plus in my book!
This is one of those beliefs that can lead to a slippery slope. Yes, from an empirical perspective it needs to happen. But are we okay with how it’s likely to happen? Because the path we’re on has the honest and humble proletariat taking the brunt of the blow while the elite lap up the freshly available assets.
Any attempt to alter that trajectory will probably lead to the same tribalistic and knee-jerk violence that breeds authoritarianism and racism and will not further the progressive cause of coexistence.
So no matter what happens, we’ll likely end up in the same place a few hundred years later.
Or maybe I’m wrong?
You’re not wrong. Save for a few thousand over a few hundred
probably means the dragon tree, dracaena species, but thats in madagascar and socatra mostly
And the Canary islands too. I wonder if there’s precedent from them going extinct in mainland Africa and the naturally returning
Personally, I’m excited to see what kind of biomes end up emerging on a melting/melted Antartica.
Well ok, even I’m not pessimistic enough to think I’ll live to see that, in a way that its dramatically different than it is now, but hey, its like uh… a subbranch of speculative evolution, sorta.
Maybe in a 100-200 years we have enough glacial loss and icemelt that West Antarctica might have parts where actual soil is regularly facing the sun.
I think this is a ‘what if all the ice was gone’ map:
Personally I am not able to get excited about the prospect, with the knowledge that it happens on the back of millions of species going extinct all over the globe.
Probably 100% cow pastures.
How exactly were the names “East Antarctica” and “West Antarctica” in that map decided? What does “East” and “West” mean at the South Pole?
I googled it:
Image Source: Wikipedia
Anything between lines of longitude 0° - 180° (0° is britain GMT, 180° is opposite side of earth) is EAST.
Anything between 180° to 0 (you can think of as 360°) is WEST.
Thus you have a western hemisphere, which i guess is just tthe americas and british Isles, and an eastern hemisphere, which i guess is most of afroeurasia and australia. This is just about the only way it could’ve worked, but as for where 0 and 180 went, it’s just arbitrary.
I would’ve defined the Levant as the boundary between east and west hemisphere, instead.
Fun Fact
Eastern Antarctica’s ice sheet is older and more well developed than western antarctica. It will probably take longer to melt or collapse than the western half.
Source: Discovering Antarctica
Collapsible bonus image + source
Unless you stand perfectly at the south pr perfectly at the north point of either pole, there will always be an east and a west.
Yes - but you can choose any point to stand on. So all arbitrary separations in to “East” and “West” are equally valid.
We shall have the compass decide, good sir! We are but mere mortals!
Same as now. European influence.
you’re thinking geographic west and east. what other definitions exist for west and east?
Under the US’s political sphere of influence vs China’s?
whose map is this? does the chinese map use different words?
Don’t Panic
“Most of us” is not “all of us”. Humanity will survive and the survivors will adapt.
Nothing but positivity here.
The majority of other species wont survive or adapt though. And all because of something we caused. It’s not only humans sharing this Earth, even though a lot of us sure acts as if that is the case.
Always the poor, disabled, marginalised, chronically ill, non first world, will be hit the hardest and die at the highest rates.
My professional advice is to not be any of those things when shit hits the fan.
Tries to wish lifelong chronic illness away
My professional advice is that i expect someone who is involved in environmental prepper groups would be the most protected from climate catastrophe/have the best access to protection when shit hits the fan.
Controversial opinion: I also don’t think shit will hit the fan too bad except for certain countries. But the USA, or parts of it, might be one of those countries. And a lot of nations are at risk.
So maybe neither of these things are whitepilling depending on what your illness is and where you live. But i tried
Hard to be in an environmental prepper group if you’re too disabled/chronically ill to leave your bed haha. I’ve just accepted if shit really hits the fan I’m dying.
Have tried being a millionair? That seems to make problems go away quite easily.
I prefer being a millionearth since I walk to places.
Yeah I would still be ill but it would be “oh that sucks and I can afford it” not “my survival is constantly on the line”.
you know what has been really funny all my life. laughing at the rich people in the hospital.
oh wait, i’m not that much of a dick. money doesn’t keep them from being sick, strangely enough.
Money does buy access to a lot better treatments, though.
sometimes yes sometimes no. sometimes they throw amazing treatments at you for free if you are willing to be in a trial and money can’t get you into those. trust me, i have tried to bribe my way into a few with money i didn’t have, and once the best connections in the world couldn’t get me in
When it comes to climate change I’m not sure. We on the poorer side of the world already live in a constant crisis and adaptation and drastically changing our way to live might not hit us as hard as for people in first world countries who are used to a high dependence on industry and globalization. In fact, we’re already slowly adapting without most people even noticing.
100% but what you neglect to mention is the poorer world already has far higher mortality rates. This will only make it worse.
That’s true :(
I tend to agree that developped countries tend to underestimate the fragility of their systems. But then there still are simple facts like if you spend 10% of your income on food, you can afford significant food price hikes. If you spend 70% of income on food, then a small rise is already lethal.
True, but on the other hand, if international trade diminishes, we’re on the food production side. The places who depend on imports will be hit much harder.
That’s if we survive WWIII, disease, and climate change.
That’s not how that works. The Sahara savannah is tied to the rotation of the earth on its axis. That takes roughly 23,000 years. The period of time between savannah periods is about 13,000 years and the last one ended roughly 6,000-7,000 years ago. The next one will start in roughly 6,0000-7,000 more years.
This is oversimplified, by a lot. There are many factors impacting Africa’s aridity, including the current glaciation cycle, sea levels as a result thereof, the AMOC, etc.
… Are you aware of any study or perhaps graphic or map based on a studies that… actually tries to model the effects of an AMOC shutdown?
Or maybe ‘signifcant weakening’ or ‘decoherence’ would be a more accurate way to out it?
Because I loosely keep up with Paul Beckwith’s roughly weekly videos and uh… the SMOC ain’t doin so great, and like, currently, and in the last month or two… well, the artctic polar vortex has … more or less been destabilizing… to a rather extreme amount…
Pretty sure that the sahara is classified as a mid latitude desert, similar to the Arabian, the atacama or the great Sandy desert in Australia which are influenced by the Hadley Cells
True, but I’m not trying to write a dissertation while enjoying my morning bowl o weed
Well you were certainly happy to discredit it. If you aren’t willing to explain why, dont speak
Just like you explained the full thing? That type of “not speaking?”
I simplified things. You added no concrete additional context.
Keep talking bro, no one thinks youre right.
It will be, like, an oasis for us in the future!
