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Okay, hear me out. If a bunch of germans want to go to different countries and a bunch of people want to go to germany from different countries, you could just make immigration easier and allow a constant flow of people arround the eu. We already know international exchange programs are good for people, so im guessing moving to a new country also is. You get a new perspective, learn a new language, have to adjust to new conditions, etc, all really good things to learn in the long run.
The contention is that people want to leave in part because of high immigration. Germany is not like America. Everyone is entitled to generous social benefits. After many years of high rates of refugee admissions (especially following the Syrian Refugee Crisis), the national budget is becoming very difficult to balance. Taxes continue to rise for everyone, and services are harder to get. Even visiting the doctor can be very difficult now in many cities. Many GPs aren’t taking any new patients. Many young Germans argue that the social contract is broken. The state prioritises the welfare of new arrivals and the elderly, and ignores the needs of the young.
Of course there are also many other factors. Germany’s decision to prematurely shut down its nuclear reactors will go down in history as one of the worst political and strategic decisions in history. It caused electricity prices to skyrocket and has decimated Germany’s previously impressive manufacturing sectors. They also have cultural issues embracing technological efficiency improvements. Most government departments still run by fax machine (by law). Most paperwork must be handled physically. Most Germans still prefer cash. Etc.
Ultimately I agree with you directionally - provided Germany liberalises its immigration only for high earners. This has been the major contention. A very high number of immigrants are low or no skill, and cost the state an enormous amount. This is causing massive economic and social issues. If Germany halted all low/no skilled immigration, sentiment would improve for high skilled immigration. Young people might feel like the social contract were not being torn up.
With that Germany is about EU average. However there are also a lot of reasons to stay in Germany, like a still relatively strong job market and still relatively innovative regions(both compared on an EU level).
Still something German politicians would be wise to keep in mind. Those things can change and will, given that the German economy is stagnant right now and there are some massive head winds.
I found his trend study here,( German pdf) His sample was around 2K youngster , and his findings have ca. 2% error margin iiuc. He’s been publishing regularly since corona epidemic according to his website. What called my attention was especially this worrisome quote, which might explain what’s going on:
" The proportion of young people who say they need psychological support has also reached a new peak of 29 percent. Women, at 34 percent, and students, at 32 percent, are particularly affected by this psychological strain. Among young Germans without a job, 42 percent likewise rely on psychological support services."
I’m not sure how this trend compares to other ( European) countries, but I remember reading similar trends in several countries for years since the Corona epidemic. These issues require much more serious attention, studies and rapid & adequate solutions imo.
Emigrate to where exactly? These modern problems seem to be pretty universal so far….
Nordic countries, Denmark, Sweden, Norway
The Netherlands, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Canada, Australia
By emigrating you exchange problems from your own country you know, for problems of another country you don’t know.
Exchange problems that you’re sick of, for problems you’re not yet sick of. Move every few years until you’ve become sick of all possible problems. Then you’ll be ready to solve them all.
Moving to a country with a language you can’t read is peaceful because you can’t read ad slogans or yellow paper headlines.
If you have tried solving the problems and failed then an exchange is the smart decision.
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I wonder how this compares to similar euro countries? It’s only polling youth 29 down to 14 year olds, of course they dream of adventure elsewhere. What kid thinks their perfect life is in their hometown?
They’re not going to find things to be any different anywhere else. They probably don’t realise how many young people want to imigrate to places like Germany; the country with the highest immigration figures of EU born people.
It should be no shock that times are the way they are now for young people. There’s been generational neglect for decades.
They probably don’t realise how many young people want to imigrate to places like Germany;
Of the 14 to 29 year olds, more than 20% should have a migration background. It could be that most of the 20% are immigrants who want to move on because Germany is not as good as they or their parents thought.
In 2024, most Germans, regardless of age, settled in Switzerland, which was home to around 324,000 German citizens.
That doesn’t seem like the most obvious place, as it’s one of the few places in Europe that isn’t in the EU and to which German citizens don’t have an automatic right to move to.
It’s very wealthy and AFAIK has low taxes, though. But I’m not sure that Switzerland has a better housing situation.
But also, it’s not particularly surprising that Germans are settling in a German-speaking country (even if the local accent/dialect is quite different).
What the actual fuck.
To where, Ukraine or Iran
No north korea obviously.
No, seriously, you think you are funny?
