carbrain is “this is the fault of 3 million parallel, separated, individual actors” a lot

  • 7bicycles [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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    Not defending it, but this is how it works. Legally, if this is the case, you are in the wrong. You must match the flow of traffic.

    you are the traffic

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          I was going to reference the same video to show how an individual CAN in fact affect the flow of traffic for everyone else. One person hitting the brakes causes a chain reaction.

          Edit: while I think this video supports my point it’s also not indicative of real road conditions. On a highway, being the only car going exactly the posted speed limit is dangerous. The ‘flow of traffic’ is a real thing. If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?

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            thing. If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?

            No, you ride (also drive) only within the visual stopping distance except for very rare circumstances. Also what if that guy just ate shit and is lying unconscious on the ground because of an oil spill?

          • 7bicycles [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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            I was going to reference the same video to show how an individual CAN in fact affect the flow of traffic for everyone else. One person hitting the brakes causes a chain reaction.

            okay so what if somebody has to brake because they got cut off or something

            • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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              The person who changed lanes without enough space/speed caused the traffic jam.

              It’s a terrible system of transportation and we all want to get off the road as fast as possible.

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              The person cutting off is most likely the problem.

              They need to match speed and merge in where there is space; if you see traffic merging in to your lane, leave space for them (drop speed by ~2 kph) so you don’t have to brake.

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            If someone on a narrow bike path with limited visibility decided to get off and walk their bike down the middle of the path, would they not be the problem when people riding their bikes come along and are unable to go around?

            You’re mixing things here. They would not be in the wrong for walking their bike or otherwise traveling a section of limited visibility slowly and with caution. You never know what could be around the corner! In your scenario, they are in the wrong for traveling down the middle and not sticking to the correct side for their jurisdiction.

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              walking their bike or otherwise traveling a section of limited visibility slowly and with caution.

              What if there is fine visibility and no observable reason to be walking your bike?

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                If it’s a path that also allows pedestrian use then there’s still no issue. If it’s truly for cycling only the yeah it’s a problem and it’s incumbent on that person to get out the way, preferably to a sidewalk.