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RTFM! (Documentation is incomplete and several versions out of date)
Closed: marked as duplicate
The duplicate:
- 16 years old
- different OS
- different language
- different problem
- no accepted solution
“why would you want to do it like that? you’re dumb. You should instead be doing completely different thing”
trauma triggers
But that one doesn’t address the current version?! I tried it before asking.
muted
They would accuse you of “trying to use code without understanding what it does”. Can you imagine?
Yeah but also its like “Thats why I am here boss, to learn and understand.”
“Then RTFM. It’s not my job to teach you. It’s my job to reply belligerently to every thread and provide absolutely no useful input.”
Why back in the day, you could ask a difficult question for a complex problem, get called a n00b, and maybe you’d get a downvote or two.
good old times. now the gpt gets asked and it showers u with meaningless compliments explaining how to do it wrongly
note that i dont think either is a good thing
Depends on how you look at it.
Toxic nerds shower each other with insults at tech help forums instead of, you know, providing help -> web scrapers yield zero useful data from said forums and therefore LLM’s get dick too.
Toxic nerds 1:0 LLM’s.
how is that toxic nerds 1? both suck here. im not saying llm is better or they are equally bad. but both arent a good thing
Your insightful comment tells me you’re exactly on the right track.
To maximize engagement and get better replies, try posting it on reddit.
People asked questions on Stackoverflow? There was an answer to 95% of the relevant questions already, and if there wasn’t, well, I didn’t think somebody would come up with the correct answer before my deadline.
years of people asking questions and getting ridiculed eventually getting an answer weeks or months or years later is how there were 95% of the relevant answers
certain niche questions would get responses pretty fast, and yea not all the responses or even most of them were useless. but sometimes a single comment asking “did u check xyz” can be like “oh shit now ik the issue”
I don’t know man… If I were to provide free labor I would also be pissed if people kept asking the same questions again and again
EDIT: mind you, I am talking using the site in about ~2014, and the number of answered questions has obviously just increased after that
im not saying its not annoying that people just dont seem to search before asking a lot of the times. but seeing them is part of that free labor, and u can just ignore. i provide help in forums and just ignore when someone asks an exact question already answered and easy to search (cases where its not exact i might say something) (also ig search engines suck now so idk how to think about that but we arent talking right now anyways)
seeing them is part of that free labor
Yeah, people adding to your workload as an unpaid worker is annoying…
Some further context: I did answer a handful stackoverflow questions some years ago. No, I never complained to anybody about people asking dumb questions or whatever. But actually coming up with answers was real work and not easy, even though I was knowledgeable in the topics I answered questions in. In fact, it was too much work for me, and I stopped doing it.
So I am generally sympathetic to anybody who takes the time to do it.
But you aren’t getting paid to pay attention to every single question you come across, so just ignore the repeats…
so far, ive only gotten super nice replys from people on blender and godot forums.
they seem nice.
those forums are great bc the mods actually care to do things
true, but ive not received a bad message yet. would have seen em otherwise I’m ma mails—
but yesyes humans wahoo ~
IRCs were notorious for this kind of behaviour. I remember when i first started linux I got long drawn-out lectures about how stupid I was for not getting why the issue i was having occurred, and that rather than get help I should RTFM. It can be real bad sometimes, and a lot of the time mods would provide no help to you against that kind of beratement. We’ve come a long way from then, though there’s still plenty of pockets within the programming world that act this way.
“Read The Fucking FAQ!” isn’t much of an humiliation.
“RTF(thousand-page-pdf)M”
They can only humiliate themselves with their own words, unless they’re taking to a little bitch.
lets not pretend words dont hurt, being a “little bitch” translates to vulnerable, looking for help. vulnerability isnt the issue, the issue is lack of moderation or care by those who run the places. your statement is just re-enforcing the people who are assholes to continue being assholes and for those who get hurt to just stop being hurt, so amazing ig u solved it
Stackoverflow was the reddit of online programming help lol.
Picking any forum would usually get you much better results.
That humiliation is nessasary for character development and destroy the dummest of dumm idears.
we still do that, old man.
