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I read a story on reddit today - a redditor said he came home to find his brother in the process of committing suicide. The redditor stopped him. The brother still hasn’t thanked the redditor, barely even talks to the redditor any more, and the redditor was complaining about it. It’s just infuriating. I hate the social narrative that anyone who interrupts a suicide is always a hero and the would-be suicidal person owes them thanks. Just like I hate the toxic positivity narrative that suicidal feelings always pass, suicide is always a mistake, and everything should be done to prevent it. That’s how we end up with the shitty situation in many countries where even people living in incurable pain, even those dying in incurable pain, have to suffer to the bitter end, instead of being allowed to be put out of their misery. Who knows why the brother attempted suicide. Maybe he has problems that can’t be solved and are unbearable. Now it’s one thing to act on instinct and save someone who’s dying in front of you, I’m not even really blaming the redditor for that. But the self-righteous and narcissistic whingeing about how he hasn’t been thanked yet, I mean how dare the brother not be grateful that you took away his freedom of choice. What makes it even more infuriating is when someone whose suicide was prevented and is later glad they are still alive, thinks that every failed suicide should feel the same way. Some cheeky removed of a redditor actually said to the saviour brother “As someone who was prevented from committing suicide and is now thankful for that, please let me thank you on behalf of your brother since he’s too ungrateful to thank you himself.” Imagine the level of narcissism you must have to not only think that everyone should feel the same way as you, but to feel justified in thanking someone for interfering in and taking away someone else’s free will to determine their own fate.
If our sick society just accepted people’s right to assisted suicide, for whatever reason they choose, then things like this wouldn’t even happen. People wouldn’t come home and find their brother in the middle of an attempt. It’s precisely because society prefers to force toxic positivity and crap like therapy on people instead, none of which usually works, that leaves people who want to exit with no choice but to try themselves in a place where someone who doesn’t want to see that, will find them.
I recommend not looking at any reddit posts regarding that kind of thing because you will always get privileged people like that who seem to see everyone struggling as someone that just needs to quit making a scene. I can relate to being annoyed at it though, people can be ignorant but let’s be real, redditors are unique in their terribleness so I hope you won’t take their stupidity on board too much.
Personally I don’t like assisted suicide simply because I believe it is used as an excuse by capitalism as a sort of eugenics and/or an excuse to not try and help people who might not feel that way if their needs are met and environment is different. However given the state of the world, I can sympathize a lot with your feelings.
Overall what I mean to say is; Reddit does indeed suck.
I don’t believe in assisted suicide simply because I believe it is used as an excuse by capitalism as a sort of eugenics and/or an excuse to not try and help people who might not feel that way if their needs are met and environment is different.
But their needs aren’t going to be met anyway. If someone wants assisted suicide because, for instance, their benefits have been stopped and they can’t afford to live any more, or because their country doesn’t provide adequate medical treatment and they are suffering with their untreated medical conditions, or because they’re living in an abusive situation and there are no other avenues open to them, the government isn’t going to say, “This person now wants to die because we aren’t taking care of them, so let’s start taking care of them so they don’t feel that way any more!” Either way, they aren’t being taken care of and they aren’t going to be taken care of. So denying them AS is just making them suffer longer against their will. And there are many instances where all the intervention in the world wouldn’t help anyway. Even if someone does have access to all the available help, many still suffer from untreatable pain, or are dying slowly and horribly anyway and want their suffering to end.
If capitalism really wanted to get rid of useless eaters/disabled/etc then assisted suicide would be legal in a lot more countries, and much more easily accessible in the countries it’s already legal in.
It’s just absolutely fascist to deny people this service. People get outraged when people want to ban abortions or gender reassignments, but the same people are against AS, which means they are against people having the fundamental right to choose whether to exist or not. It’s just crazy to me that people support every right over your own body except the ultimate right. As if that isn’t bad enough most countries ban most things that would enable you to do the job reliably from home, and are banning more and more of these things all the time. Even websites that allow discussion of methods and a place to meet people to help you with it have been banned (at least in the UK). Vulnerable people aren’t taken care of at all but are also prevented from ending their suffering. At this point I’m convinced it’s just to be cruel, to create as much suffering as possible.
Fuck, I don’t like either option I just want people to not be in that position where they feel that way in the first place. Fuck this evil system.
I’ve encountered this a lot in my own life where people make my mental health about them. My physical health, as well, but there’s more entitlement around other people’s psychiatric problems. I’ve had to get confrontational with some about it, saying “This isn’t about you or your feelings. This is about my needs and problems as a human being.”
It’s incredibly frustrating having to tiptoe around normies because they really can’t handle discussions regarding suicide and the causes of it. I get you miss your friend/loved one who killed themselves. But you don’t seem to want to tackle the reasons why that happened, only that it makes you sad to think about.
But you don’t seem to want to tackle the reasons why that happened, only that it makes you sad to think about.
This, x 10000
I especially hate the whole “We’ll never know why he/she did it” that they always come out with, even though in many cases they told their family they going to do it and why and the family just brushed them off, or it was obvious what their problems were (eg financial etc) and the family did nothing to help. Then the family act like they’re the victims, and how could you do this to them. had to listen to this crap at the funeral of a friend and it was enraging.
