Don’t know about the meatballs. The vegan hot dogs were a serious disappointment, though. Taste, look, mouth feeling, all horribly off. Basically an anti-advertisement against vegan food.
yeah I’m a proponent of more plant food and I also don’t think the taste argument holds up, especially because taste is so subjective
that being said, for burgers specifically, I think most people don’t realize just how much of the flavor heavy lifting that fixings and condiments do. I remember making a lazy bitch college “meal” of black beans in a bowl with ketchup and mustard (the only condiments I had), and being mindblown that my bean bowl tasted like a burger. I regularly purchased meat back then, but that experience got me into cooking bean and other vegetable based burgers (certainly easier on the college kid wallet)
Spices are everything. You can do miracles if you know how to use them.
We regularly do “oat days”, where you get 80g of oat flakes for breakfast, lunch and dinner each, to be mixed with half a liter of hot tea or broth. Small(!) amounts of fruit and veg are allowed, but no fat or dairy. Without spices, this would be plain torture. With spices, you can even turn this into tasty dishes.
I don’t like most copies, vegan food tend to be better when it is OK with being it’s own thing. There’s one bean based burger I really like, and and tons of stuff like falafel, which is just made to be good, not made to be a copy.
My point exactly. If you want to eat vegan, use vegan recipes, and don’t try to force-copy meat. First, it will only be a half-measure regardless of, and second, even that can only be achieved by ultra high processing the food.
There are so many wonderful vegan dishes, especially in the Indian and south-east Asian kitchen, and they are cheaper and healthier (usually) than any fake sausage.
That argument is very much alive if you try IKEA hotdogs. The vegan variety is so horrible, it is basically an ad for returning to meat.
The meat ones are pretty bad, if not worse. The vegetarian (vegan?) meatballs on the other hand 👌
Don’t know about the meatballs. The vegan hot dogs were a serious disappointment, though. Taste, look, mouth feeling, all horribly off. Basically an anti-advertisement against vegan food.
yeah I’m a proponent of more plant food and I also don’t think the taste argument holds up, especially because taste is so subjective
that being said, for burgers specifically, I think most people don’t realize just how much of the flavor heavy lifting that fixings and condiments do. I remember making a lazy bitch college “meal” of black beans in a bowl with ketchup and mustard (the only condiments I had), and being mindblown that my bean bowl tasted like a burger. I regularly purchased meat back then, but that experience got me into cooking bean and other vegetable based burgers (certainly easier on the college kid wallet)
Spices are everything. You can do miracles if you know how to use them.
We regularly do “oat days”, where you get 80g of oat flakes for breakfast, lunch and dinner each, to be mixed with half a liter of hot tea or broth. Small(!) amounts of fruit and veg are allowed, but no fat or dairy. Without spices, this would be plain torture. With spices, you can even turn this into tasty dishes.
I don’t like most copies, vegan food tend to be better when it is OK with being it’s own thing. There’s one bean based burger I really like, and and tons of stuff like falafel, which is just made to be good, not made to be a copy.
My point exactly. If you want to eat vegan, use vegan recipes, and don’t try to force-copy meat. First, it will only be a half-measure regardless of, and second, even that can only be achieved by ultra high processing the food.
There are so many wonderful vegan dishes, especially in the Indian and south-east Asian kitchen, and they are cheaper and healthier (usually) than any fake sausage.