In the case of YouTube, only after a few results they become completely unrelated to my search.
month on month, everything gets worse and more noise to filter out. Can’t be the only one with this sentiment.
That is why I’ve started using Deepseek as a replacement for searches, the proven tract record and successes of the Communist Party of China to improve people’s lives make tech out of China OVERWHELMINGLY more trust worthy then tech out of the blood soaked Capitalist Imperialist threat to all humanity that is the US ruling class (and those who currently serve them) (and the US itself for as long as it hasn’t yet overthrown the Capitalists (basically the Billionaires, and now also a F**king Trillionare.)) (it’s almost like I’m writing code lol, I should try to make my writing style more consistent or something)
It’s on purpose. The longer you scroll, the longer you’re on the platform. That’s higher engagement numbers and is used to expose you to/negotiate higher prices from advertisements.
Probably because it’s prioritising what it thinks you’re more likely to click on more than the actual search term. AI recommendations basically.
It’s been bad for a few years already but it is getting worse. A good chunk of the internet isn’t indexing anymore (places which require logins to get the content), and those that are largely exist to earn from the advertising, not to be helpful.
There’s actually an opportunity for a disruptive force here. If you can be better at search than Google, you could steal users. But duckduckgo and related are mostly trying to be old Google rather than better Google.
It’s so bad. I keep searching topics on YouTube and getting 3-4 results before YouTube starts recommending videos based on past searches or past watched videos. Like, excuse me YouTube, what the fuck? You search what I tell you to search.
All the categories seems wildly divorced from what’s actually in them and half the time the category only suggests two videos… to me it feels like YouTube decides what you watch, today your suggestions are 90% old music videos, tomorrow a bunch of random machining videos, next day fail videos, rinse and repeat - obviously it’s based on your interests not mine but I’m sure everyone is having the same shitty experience
Yep. And to think we lost Songza to Google Music. To YouTube music. To YouTube.
Both have been prioritising “engagement” over “results” because it allows them to advertise to you more.
In case you didn’t realise, if the product is free, you’re the product and both have been doing an amazing job out of extracting value from your eyeballs.
Unsurprisingly, they’re both owned by the same company.
The “results” portion they got rid of is credibility of the results based on cross linking i.e. people linking to useful resources. It was the thing that made Google the best search engine.
Noe they prioritise what sell the most ads as the top priority.
Dunno about Google but Youtube seems to be making some things harder on purpose, like seeing the date of a video or showing search results in chronological order.
Extensions are your friend. I’ve had to install several just to make YouTube useable!
If I need to go find something to make a service useable that’s my sign to not use the service.
I’d be interested to know if there’s a way to fix this issue with extensions. Do you mean browser extensions? I use a browser sometimes and newpipe sometimes.
It also feels like some pages in top results didn’t even exist before I made the search. They are filled with generic babble about the subject without ever going to details or conclusions. Dribble that no human would ever write
I just love how YouTube has a “show unwatched” button in its search that usually shows me videos I have watched multiple times.
Yes, it is one of the main reasons I started paying for Kagi. Google search is designed first and foremost to serve you up to advertisers who pay Google.
I’m annoyed that YT got rid of the search by newest first option. At least Rumble has it still
Rumble, which hosts ‘truth’ social’s cloud services…
Either this or YT. The gaming side of Rumble is fairly normal and apolitical with decent comment and views. I really with someone would buy Rumble out and make it into a normal video hosting site instead of all this MAGA propaganda.
Peertube is so divided that it’s nearly impossible to find or post. Bitchute sucks and is filled with view bots, reposters (myself included), and 0.1% of users that comment. Odysee is a pain in the butt to use as a video site. Why do I need points to comment on a video? Also not a lot of traction on it. TikTok if you enjoy being banned or censored for pro-LGBTQ+ anti-China, or too fat, not to mention that it’s spyware.
I might have missed a couple, but we’re screwed as uploaders.
Yes. It’s becoming shittier everyday.
Use duckduckgo and turn off ai results. Problem solved.
no-ai duckduckgo is one url away:
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/
Search has been becoming smarter for years (decades?) by now.
The problem is that search has been made to work with the “you know what I mean” factor… fixing spelling mistakes, considering different tenses or forms of words, including related words…
Search became more friendly to the average non-technical user, but it became harder for users who know/knew how to search for exactly what they want.
Other factors include…
- Search Engine Optimization (SEO) where websites try to appear for as many searches as possible, occasionally regardless of relevance
- Monetization of search, where people with SEO and a lot of money pay to be included in as many “relevant” searches as possible
- AI incorporated into search by trying to find additional relevant pages
- Search engines being reluctant to return zero (or few) results and padding the results with other things you “might be interested in”
- Also, search trying to use what you “might be interested in” based on what they know about you/your account/your IP address/your location based on your IP range.
