• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      Because before Cuba got tons of oil from Venezuela.

      The US ended that with no plan on how Cuba would cope, just left them to fucking die. It’s gross.

      Cuba had it’s entire infrastructure built around oil burning to produce power.

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        The US ended that with no plan on how Cuba would cope

        fight for their land and stop leaving it as refugee’s?

        more and more I’m against immigration as it’s seems to give the people an easy out, instead of fighting for land just leave and talk shit about it from afar

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            🤣 well at least you wouldn’t be a refugee and can actually stand up for yourself

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          Sure has gone well for the Palestinians that refused to be evicted from their homes by an internationally supported military settler colony

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            same thing, palestinians leave gaza and thus it’s ruled by islamic state dictators, when people do stand up they get tortured

            if all the people willing to fight for it leave the only people who remain support the nutters in power and that’s how you end up with oct 7th

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      Because before Cuban doctors didn’t have to rush to manually pump the respirators for intubated infants multiple times a week during blackouts due to the US blockade intensifying.

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          I’m literally American lol. But I was in China a couple months ago, so I understand why you wouldn’t want to listen to anyone with direct knowledge of the subject, we wouldn’t want to challenge pre-existing beliefs with evidence and observation.

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            If Russia can pay Americans to spout propaganda benefitting Russia, why can’t China do the same? I’m not saying you are, but “I’m literally American” isn’t a useful response by any means.

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              Except you could also be someone’s influence campaign. If you automatically give the assumption of “paid propagandist” more weight than the assumption of earnest belief, you may as well exit the Internet.

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                I’m specifically saying “I’m an American” isn’t a useful rebuttal about being a paid propagandist, nothing more or less. I didn’t say if it was my belief that he was.

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      Yes, optics, because if the US sinks ships carrying solar panels they lose even more respect on the international stage and bring even more attention to their illegal military blockade of Cuba in which they have directly killed over 200 civilians via bombing vessels in and around Cuba, and indirectly killed at least a few thousand by eliminating oil imports to the country.

      China had nothing but risk before the carrier group was moved into place, as the US’ official stance was international sanctions and complete lockout from using USD internationally if you dared to trade with Cuba.

      After the blockade those sanctions are meaningless as no other country would follow the US if they actually issue said sanctions, and the US itself isn’t economically capable of handling sanctions against China at this point in time. So China has no risk to help out.

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        So China has no risk to help out

        If China saw it that way, they would be sending oil. They’re still trying not to rock the boat, the way I had it explained by a chinese cab driver is that if they continue to follow the rules and be reliable, more of the world will be willing to expand relations with China, protecting them from the US or anybody else acting unfairly. I did not call him naive to his face.

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          Why do you think aiding an addiction would be helping out? Solar panels are blockade proof. Cuba’s biggest problems come from over reliance on disposable imports; if Cuba had access to solar Venezuela wouldn’t have been invaded and Cuba wouldn’t have any real negative effects from this blockade besides the loss of tourism income.

          Besides China doesn’t sell oil, they do sell Solar panels and batteries. One generally gives what they have.

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            Keeping the power plants running so babies don’t die is not feeding an addiction wtf.

            China has tankers with oil, this is an emergency, building solar is great long term, but it doesn’t matter to the patients on ventilators and the farmers who’s tractors have no fuel.

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              Keeping the power plants running so babies don’t die is not feeding an addiction wtf.

              What… what do you think the solar panels are going to do?

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                They will decrease the severity of the crisis, but as the article says, theres not enough, they take time to come online, and upgrading Cuba’s grid and storage will take even longer, and it still doesn’t help processes that need oil like farming and concrete production.

                Cuba needs oil now.

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                  doesn’t help processes that need oil like farming and concrete production.

                  If they can reduce oil use in power generation, it should help by reducing the overall amounts of oil they need to procure

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                    The argument here isn’t that solar won’t help in the future, it’s that people are literally dying because they don’t have oil right now.

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                Take far longer to set up that it would to simply make use of the existing infrastructure.

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        Yes, which we call soft power. It’s generally very beneficial, which is exactly why US gutted USAID because they literally can’t do anything right.

        Few million in infrastructure aid pays out huge with soft power.