• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    This seems to be a recurring problem, of strongman leaders who allegedly love their country and people making terrible decisions starting elective wars.

    Trump is a fool and a conman and just wanted to blow up brown people, but Netanyahu, for instance, should have known better.

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      Netanyahu wanted (and wants) to stay out of prison, but also (thanks to America and its European allies) Israel has faced a grand total of zero consequences for trying to do regime change in Iran. What should they (Netanyahu obviously couldn’t have done this alone) known better?

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        Iran now has proof of concept, that closing the Strait of Hormuz serves as a deterrent for war as good as the capacity of nuclear response. In fact, it’s better in that it’s more useful. No nation yet dares to actually use nukes that they have (for instance, Russa hasn’t threatened nuclear escalation as the US and Europe support Ukraine, and Ukraine might still join NATO.) Closing the strait does economic damage, but much less physical damage, so it’s Iran is freer to close the strait more readily than they could be with any nuclear weapon.

        So now Iran has shown that power, it is stronger for it on the international stage, and as a result Israel is now weaker. We’re already seeing this as Iran uses the closed strait to pressure the US to, in turn, pressure Israel to stop attacking Syria.

        If Netanyahu hadn’t pressured the US to attack Iran, then the IDF could probably continue to war on Syria without Iran closing the strait, and the US would not be under pressure by Iran. Also the people of the US might disapprove of Israel less and the influence of AIPAC money in US elections would likely be less of an issue. There’s also pressure in the US for Congress to stop budgeting for materiel for Israel.

        Recently, Israel intended an air strike on a plane full of Iranian negotiators, but the US warned Tehran about it and the plane was diverted, so we’re already seeing signs that the alliance between the US and Israel is under stress.

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            You think Epstein files is enough to bring down Trump? After all of the hundreds of thousands of emails we’ve seen?

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              trump is the type of boy who will start a war to prevent pictures of him blowing Bubba from leaking out, he does care about the files

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                Are there pictures of him blowing Bubba? There’s already enough evidence out there that he’s sexually assaulted teen girls. If that’s not enough to turn the base (and the courts) against Teflon Don then I doubt that a gay act or a deviant sex act would do it either.

                The whole MAGA movement is following the pattern regarding cult leaders to a T: The leader is given exception to rules and is immune to judgement.

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            During Trump 1.0 there was the controversy of whether Putin has Kompromat on Trump in the form of videos of Trump engaging in watersports. They never emerged, but since then it’s been super clear that even his family values oriented Evangelist Christian followers are eager to forgive him for anything.

            Hence the hypothetical that he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and never lose a single vote.

            In fact, he loses MAGA voters all the time, but one at a time, after they’ve deconstructed their own loyalty and come to accept they’ve been played. (It raises the question if they’ve actually learned empathy, that programs that help the undeserved might help them and theirs as well, but they seem to consistently quit MAGA when they come to terms that they’ve been harmed, themselves.)

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      Reportedly it’s a major problem with authoritarian strongmen, that everyone surrounding them blows smoke up their ass for years. They are either afraid of getting murdered for telling the truth, or they think they will get ahead by telling pleasing lies, or there is just an overall culture of corruption.

      In any case Putin thought his situation was a lot better than it really was.

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        They are either afraid of getting murdered for telling the truth,

        Stalin died a painful death because everybody was afraid of waking him when he was actually suffering from a hemorrhagic stroke for almost the entire day. It didn’t make up for all of the horrible shit he did, but it was at least a little bit of karmic justice.