I found out my girlfriend has a Jiang Qing fan page and she keeps calling me a capitalist roader. I’ve been trying to explain the benefits of socialism with Chinese characteristics, but she just laughs at me and yells “REVISIONIST” anytime I bring it up.
What should I do?
Edit: thanks to those of you who took this seriously. Her parents are on vacation so she is heading to their house with a group of her French Maoist friends. We will see how our next conversation goes when she is back.
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What is roader?
This isn’t a joke and it’s not funny. It’s breaking apart our relationship
if she understands how disastrous the sino-soviet split was, I’m confident you can reach an understanding and work things out
She just calls me a social imperialist when I bring it up
she’s a keeper, take the L and add yourself to the black book of communism
Does this mean I have to wear the plaque around my neck?
Mao contended that Deng Xiaoping was a capitalist roader and that the Soviet Union fell to capitalist roaders from within the Communist Party of the Soviet Union after the death of Joseph Stalin in 1953.
Well, he wasn’t entirely wrong. But if Khrushchev was a roader, then what does that make Mao? Out of the two, Mao’s china was supporting fascist, genocidal forces across the globe while the USSR was still backing communist forces.
Idk have her read deng, she’s either reading too much theory or no theory at all
I’ve tried to get her to read his address to the Third Plenary Session of the Eleventh Central Committee of the CPC but she refuses. She just quotes Maos little red book at me.
I’m sorry but this is like the funniest relationship problem even if it’s a bit
Ask her why everyone in China celebrated when the Gang of Four got owned.
TFW no Maoist gf to engage in line struggles with :sadness:
Stop being a revisionist.
Simple as
On the bright side you know a nice arm chair will be a solid present for her bday/xmas
She already has an Eames arm chair
This has to be a bit
“My gf is an ultra”
“Yea, she owns a chair with mediocre ergonomics that’s worth thousands of dollars”
It was a gift from her parents (who are wealthy but that’s another story).
I’m honestly ok with ultras. But her class background is worrying. Rich people like smelling their own farts. I wouldn’t be surprised if she was some version of reactionary in ten years. I’m sorry, but if her parents are legitimately wealthy, she needs to practise humility.
How wealthy are the parents?
They own a cabinet making business
If the parents are legit bourgeoisie, then for real she needs to practise some humility. I’ve met enough loudmouth leftists with rich parents that eventually fall into a middle class career before they turn 30, remembering the blunder years of them being leftist.
At the very least, they should be focusing much of their energy on praxis and not struggle sessions. Like someone mentioned here that Greta Thurnberg at least uses her privilege for change.
As a child of working class parents, self centred rich “leftists” piss me off. I’ve had enough of them constantly try to shame me over bullshit, only for them to deflect the gentlest critique of them being obvious assholes over and over. And because of the benefits of their class (education, good speaking, beauty, leisure), people not paying good attention will default to the rich person’s side.
One’s position relative to the means of production matters a lot. A LOT, comrade.
They also own a drawer making business :(
Maoists are cool honestly, I think that in general critiques from the left are principled and should be encouraged if they don’t embrace or strengthen reactionary or counterrevolutionary positions.
She likes Gonzalo tho
why on gods green earth
what does she want done about China? if it’s “a people’s revolution built to overthrow the PRC” then whatever, it’s in neither of your hands. if she can’t find a “revolution” she won’t support (like if she genuinely thinks the HK protests were anything but bourgeois tantruming) and propagates/defends any threat to China’s stability then she’s ideologically bankrupt, you can stay with her but like, outside of broad movement building type things you should just write her ideas on revolution and defending it off
just read a comment implying she condemns a Lot of parties - why is she like this ? just ask her why is she like this. there’s no built up movement in the West. there’s no need to keep other far leftists/communists ideologically arguing about things that are so far in the future that no communist line could possibly be predicted to come out on top yet
I’ll ask when I see her next. Her parents are gone for a bit so she is going to their house with her group of French Maoist friends.
No one has told you the obvious truth which is you must become even more of an ultra than her. Start saying breathing is bourgeois decadence and a real communist can support themselves by sheer love for the people. Tell her even knowing the word revisionism makes her too poisoned by capitalist spooks to be a REAL ultra.
Does this mean I have to read Stirner??
I’m only in love with you because of the benefits it provides me, as the center of the universe
This is probably a bit, but it’s also close enough to actual exchanges I had with my ex that I can almost believe it. Relationships with terminally online leftists can be weird lmao.
Its not a bit, I really want some advice
good bit
It’s not a bit! I really want to make this work out
It’s not going to work out. Nothing ever does.
