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Berlin’s backing for Israel in the current context has irrevocably ruined Germany’s international standing.
At the same time, as a result of Germany’s neoliberal restructuring, processes of de-democratisation have been ongoing for years.
The deliberate erosion of democracy has paved the way not only for the selective application of international law, but also for the restriction of fundamental rights within Germany itself.
The German population is firmly against their country’s participation in the extermination of the Palestinian people. In a recent poll, 73 percent said they had a negative view of Israel, while 80 percent have rejected further weapons exports to Israel. Despite this, German arms export licenses to Israel have surged, enabling the state to continue committing war crimes.
While the German government’s blatant disregard for the will of its own people already points to a process of de-democratisation, this is exacerbated by domestic restrictions on fundamental rights, including freedom of assembly, freedom of opinion and speech, and academic freedom, alongside violations of due process - all in the service of the Zionist slaughterers.
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Germany Will Defend Israel Against South Africa’s Gaza Genocide Claim at ICJ - Business Insider
Jan 13, 2024 is when the “social democrats” (=liberals) and greens in Germany became guilty of aiding the genocide in Gaza and became unelectable. No wonder that the conservatives are joining the fray. And the democratic socialists aren’t much better.
Considering where the money is going, I wouldn’t feel bad about not ratting out a German for committing tax fraud.
Why is the german government doing this?
Because of WWII hangover. The pendulum has swung to the other extreme.
Helping Israel kill brown people will make everybody see how bad the Jews really are: 4D nazism
Isn’t it obvious? Because they feel they have a debt towards Jewish people and the state of Israel that can never be repaid
Actual white guilt, lol.
We don’t do the “white” categorisation in Europe. They are Germans.
Because they don’t like brown people. Simple as.
Mostly money and intelligence sharing?
Overcompensation.
Israel are murderes and nothing else. As a german i’m ashamed of my government!
I am a german and i am also ashamed. Fuck fascism. Fuck Netanjahu.
They’re much more than murders, they are mass murderers.
Indeed. It is called faschism.
No surprise here, they are criminals too. Embezzling funds meant for roads and infrastructure to fund pensions as well as being openly corrupt.
They’re just arseholes who have no real economic agenda except filling their own poket.
Germany is more than the current CDU government. Chancellor Merz is the most unpopular chancellor ever in the history of the federal republic.
Before you praise the German public let’s wait who’s the next, and possibly last, chancellor. Since WWII Germany has a strong habit of copying the US.
Both countries are suffering from the unmitigated effects of a decade-long propaganda campaign paid for and orchestrated by Russia.
It would be easy to stop it: make social networks take responsibility, the same way normal media does. But the rich do not wish it, so it does not happen.
What I mean to say is that yes it is the gullible idiot portion of the respective populations voting for the fascists, but they’re not the real cause. Blame the con men, not the conned.
Had similat thoughts when reading about the far right polling in Australis. The author asked what has changed… well we have a facist regime on the rise in the US which incidentally happens to own the major social media plattforms and messengers used by the majority of citizens.
Maybe it’s too blunt but it’s very likely that you fell for propaganda. Think about who owns the algorithms.
FB has discovered a long time ago that no other reaction generates as much engagement as outrage. The propagandists have realised this, and are using it, very successfully.
You’re right, it doesn’t have to be this way - that’s what I meant by forcing the social media companies to take responsibility.
and i thought that Auschwitz had ruined Germany’s international standing.
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And AfD couldn’t be more happy about that…
Or putin
Same thing
Indeed
and for that, i am ashamed
looks like someone has krompromat on merz or his government.
I think “matching geopolitical interests” is a better fitting reason.
That and kompromat lmao
Or they’re being paid. I figure sleazeballs like him have a low price.
I wish I’ll live to see germany on the right side of history for a change
Merz cant do anything right. He even breaths thr wrong way. Threw this mouth
On the bright side, maybe someone broke his nose.
Israel is antisemetic
It seems to me a whole lot of really smart, amazing jewish scholars over generations and generations of jews have established a pretty rigorous body of knowledge and wisdom about how to integrate as a potentially targeted minority into society and how to immunize that society against being manipulated into xenophobia and racism/religious discrimination.
What is happening in Gaza and the West Bank… and Lebanon… as confident as I am there are no words to describe what is happening, I am confident there is no god that would ever call for that in their name, I guess that is not a statement I can prove or disprove… but at the same time I feel entirely sure any god that would demand that would be an abomination… so what else can this genocide occurring be, other than first and foremost a betrayal of judaism at a basic level? An insult to god, whoever and whatever you identify god as?
If you think god is a many armed spaghetti ball floating in the ether and I think god is a giant spacecrab, we can disagree about a whole lot in how those two beliefs intersect in political and real world ways, but on the other hand it is pretty easy to establish that whether god is a many armed spaghetti ball or a giant spacecrab, god made the universe and thus doing something that feels needlessly violent and destructive clearly can’t be something god desires to be done, in general… Would the spaghetti ball really want you to do needless violence upon the spacecrab heretics even if they worship forbidden beliefs? Vice versa would the spacecrab desire their followers to obliterate followers of the flying spaghetti monster just because their path to worshiping god erred in the details?
What is happening now goes beyond any distinction between one human and another you can possibly draw, it goes beyond any single evil act anybody or anything could commit to deserve an equally evil response, it is an atrocity and it threatens to drag us into WW3 :(
Their god is not a kind one. The xtians literally rebranded him with the whole big j loves you schtick because the old testament god was so brutal.
It didn’t make them any better as a people though, and other religions haven’t faired so great in the ‘be good to each other’ department either, so maybe it’s a problem with the source material and most humans just suck.
It didn’t make them any better as a people though, and other religions haven’t faired so great in the ‘be good to each other’ department either
I am not religious and I am not here to claim that religion has been a net good, but on the other hand many aspects of modern ethics and philosophy that are unarguably good came out of religious schools of thought, or perhaps to put it another way most of what we all accept as ethical and what we frequently point to as philosophical standpoints to begin difficult negotiation (i.e. “we can all agree human beings are all created equal even if we disagree on…”) has come out of or been heavily influenced by religion… which isn’t to argue that these ideas should have stayed confined within one particular religion’s school of thought but rather to point out the opposite.
No religion was the sole source for this logic and development of thought around human rights and the human condition and there is no reason to believe religion was a necessary precursor for these things to form, rather I mean to say our knowledge of these things came as a dawning awareness that the good aspects of disparate religions and ideologies could be connected and translated via shared universal statements of solidarity like “treat others as you want to be treated” and “tolerate your neighbor”. The details might not agree, but it is easy to do the math, draw the shared connections out and confidently say “yeah, they both pretty much think you should be a decent person and try to pursue happiness in a way that doesn’t hurt others”.
I am not saying religion isn’t dangerous however, and in particular I think religion becomes exceedingly dangerous when the followers of that religion become convinced the structures of their formal religious institutions are not inherently political the same way any power structure composed of humans unavoidably is… which is why the separation of church and state (and the associated freedom to practice or not practice whatever religion you so choose so long as it does not hurt others) in a free society is existentially necessary.
I think you maybe misunderstood me, or I’ve misunderstood you?
I’m saying that most people suck and that is why the world sucks and no religion has followers who are predominantly good people.
The world we live in would not be the way it is if most people were kind to each other.
All hail his noodle-y appendage! ;)
The same exists in Australia
Were actually holding a RC into antisemitism, it’s that bad
Around 80-85% of us disapprove of Zionist cunts but the federal government will not hear us of course.
Australia is spiralling down the drain as well with all this shit. I have a genuine concern for our sovereignty, if it exists at all.
What’s an RC ?
A Royal Commission, it’s our highest level of inquiry
Is that like a parliamentary inquiry? I’m sorry I don’t speak monarchy
It’s an inquiry held by a Kings Commissioner, it’s done by representatives of the crown so outside of parliament but within the functions of government.
I actually said Queen at first, it’s still difficult to get used to that change
Interesting that they are appointed by the executive. That might be a problem if their job is to find government misconduct. My country has something similar, called a Parliamentary Inquiry Committee - but they are appointed by parliament, because it’s parliament that’s supposed to check the government’s doings.
Yeah we have parliamentary and senate inquiries as well
The KCs are appointed by the executive yeah but they serve the Crown so to speak. The announcement of this RC is the issue, not necessarily its outcome.
There should have been a…parliamentary inquiry into the Bondi shooting.
The darkest irony is this all only puts jews more in danger sigh.
the entire goal of zionism, hell the orginal leaders of zionism helped hitler
racists generally don’t have any qualms helping other racists
@IronBird @supersquirrel
And not a single member of the current Israeli govt had any direct ascendants imprisoned in the Nazi death camps.tbf that’s likely more a coindance than anything else, survivorship bias and all that
given the survival rate of the death camps…
Precisely. It’s getting very hard now to hold up the distinction.
Typical of the Merz government. Instead of any actual consequences for crimes against humanity, they prefer to suck up to Israel.
Don’t let the other parties get off this easily, it’s an elite project supported by the Greens, SPD, FDP, CDU and all major news organizations public or private.
Basically from the 17th of October 2023 onward it was a genocide, the intent had been made clear by multiple figures in the Israeli government and army, and it had been put into practice by indiscriminately bombing civilians and civilian infrastructure. The Ampel government was completely aware of this (any functioning country has departments whose job it is to know what is actually happening on the ground) and they decided to make this genocide Staatsräson.
This had nothing to do with Merz.
Nah, for the Greens it is a really mixed bag and hotly debated within the party. Like half of the people elected into office are against supporting Israel and the other half is for it.
That’s why knowing who you vote for specifically matters. It’s also reasons why I press my fellow Greens to not vote for candidates who ignore Israel’s crimes.
The more people within the party we have who hold Israel to the correct standards (not violating international law, not committing warcrimes and not violating human rights), the better it gets. It is not a lost cause.
The party as an institution is complicit in genocide, there might be historic reasons for this, there might be individuals within that are unhappy about it, but once an institution is complicit in genocide, it’s time to dismantle it.
Do you want to dismantle Russia, China, Serbia, Turkey, France, UK, Japan, Canada, US, etc. then?
Dismantling institutions isn’t going to do shit unless they are built upon genocidal ideology to begin with.
In cases like the Greens, you simply need reappraisal and atonement.
I hope you understand that countries and political parties are incommensurable.
As a voter you have the choice to boycott a party that is complicit in genocide, I would strongly argue you even have the moral duty to do so.
In Germany there are multiple parties, you can vote for another. In Germany you have the right to found new parties and passive suffrage. The Greens can be dismantled wholly within legal and democratic means.
Merz is a tiny little coward.
Actually he is a quite tall coward.
Merz leck Eier Merz suck balls
Just as tiny as his little hair island. I’m sad that there is no legal way for the population to force him and his greedy and irresponsible cabinet to resign.
Put him in a little castle for prison, surround the castle with a moat guarded by well paid, trans, synchronized swimmers who get good quality healthcare and support for being employed to keep Merz at bay 24/7 in shifts while putting on beautiful routines for the crowd watching from the far embankment above.
Every square inch of the far embankment of the moat around Merz’s castle/prison must be covered with ethnic food stalls of every type imaginable, all wafting smells that as much as Merz wants to get a Xenophobic hard on from hating… kind of smell good… but Merz will only be fed a narrow diet of unseasoned boiled food in his prison. The prison will be self funding and be Merz’s most successful project as it transforms into a popular international tourist destination for people coming to “pay their respects” by laughing at the sad tiny man finally safe and supreme in his throne…
In this castle will also be a free (unless you are a white man, in which case you must apologize for being a white man to pay for your entrance) Tower of Terror-esque ride where it is rumored sometimes when the doors open on the hallway full of smoke, lasers and theatrical effect to deliver the thematic punch right before the coaster drops into freefall that you can spot the real monster through a real window pane, ugly and mundane sitting at a desk reading Mein Kempf, all alone.
what about the others, like Reiche, Spahn, Klingbeil, Dobrindt, …
And that castle sounds like a huge investment we lifestyle part-time jobber can’t possibly afford.
And a big a-hole
When’s their next election?
and you have chosen Hamas over international law correct?
No. Fuck Hamas. But at this point the Israeli government and the IDF are no better. This stopped being defense like two months after Israel started it’s incursion into Gaza and began to resemble a genocide not even a year after.
Israel’s actions has shifted my opinion to supporting the Isratin solution.
They are reverting to their old ways, even though the target has changed.
