The older I get, the more I think that community, friendship and love (whether platonic or otherwise) are the ultimate goals. They’re the point of life. Things like revolution and communism are the means to an end, they’re to achieve something that will make the world better for everyone, but then what? Then we can enjoy friendships and community with each other. Having a cause but being lonely is no good for the mental health.

Yeah nah this ain’t it.

This sounds almost identical to the hustle and grind weirdos who make all relationships into transactional means to an end.

Building community and fostering better communal relationships is the very foundation of building the world we want to see and sure we should strive to change the material conditions for all, but part of that is also in order to build a world where all can enjoy those relations, not just those building a revolutionary movement.

For the masses those are absolutely reasonable objectives in their own right and it is our job then to make possible the conditions to meet those goals without the struggles we each fave under the current hyper individualized and alienated conditions that impede them.

I cannot go through life subsuming myself socially for the sake of “reaching something”. I do NOT value the “quests” of this world at all. I ONLY value other humans and constructive harmonies between said.

The idea I would lose myself in some identity for the sake of a cause or idea, or to achieve some personal or group outcome is insane to me. No. Fuck no.

I only do what i do for the sake of myself as a human and for the welfare of other people. To belong in community as a fully realized person in my own right.

absolutely horrifying to think of human relations as something goal-oriented

i’m pretty sure i would not be alone in the world if i stopped being alone in the world. that’s what those words mean. enforce masking at gunpoint and maybe i’d feel like going to a local event.

No, they are also goals. I’ll be the first to admit that people (including formerly[?] myself) very commonly subordinate the answer of what they are living for to another person’s life and I think they are better off having a more independent idea of who they are and why they do things such that their conception of their own existence couldn’t be totally annihilated by a traffic accident that they weren’t in (rightfully upsetting as it would be, to be clear). However, people also need to have company and wanting to have a community or friends or a relationship or whatever certainly can each be a goal.

Do you mean that Ostrovsky quote?

Man’s dearest possession is life. It is given to him but once, and he must live it so as to feel no torturing regrets for wasted years, never know the burning shame of a mean and petty past; so live that, dying, he might say: all my life, all my strength were given to the finest cause in all the world──the fight for the Liberation of Mankind

this is just projecting your own brainworms onto others fam

What if the real friendship was the goals we achieved on the way?

Using my life

More like experience, and for that to be the most fun it involves other people, connections, and care. These are the foundation for even thinking of fulfilling goals. I love solving puzzles, but that won’t make me happy but itself. Even if I solve the biggest and baddest, eventually I’ll be too old to keep facing pathological monsters. I’ll have to be content solving a sodoku or something easy while I have my morning cofe. I’ll want friends to spend time with. I’ll want a place to belong.

“Hey fellow leftists, important reminder that you should never try making friends or forming communities, since they’re all alienated which means it is a waste of time to actually form human connection. It should only ever be a means to an end, just use other people, don’t treat them like humans, treat them like objects for your personal benefit and to achieve all your personal goals, gotta get on that sigma grindset.”