• DaveyRocket@lemmy.world
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    Ugh, I can’t stand Piker. He has this whole curated vibe and cult-like yes men who shout down anyone raising any criticisms of him. It’s all pretty fucking ridiculous. That said, he’s generally doing a good job of standing up against bullshit and is a consistent ally of the left and in no way deserves the hatred he receives from the right. I think he was shitty to his dog and the way everyone tried to make anyone saying it was fucked up as “an op” just made me realize people should be careful about getting too invested in the guy. He might be an ally, but mostly he wants to be famous for being an ally.

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    Conservatives hate being called out for being pedophiles.

    FUN FACT: Conservatives do not see women or children as humans. They see them only as property to fuck.

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    I would have no idea who hasan piker is if the Republicans weren’t losing their mind over him. I mean, I still don’t, really. But now I’ve heard the name and have a vague understanding of what he does. They’re giving him so much more exposure (get it?) than he would have had otherwise. They’ve created their own demon like they always do.

    Like trans women in women’s sports. But they’re trying to kill women’s sports too, so like… What? But anything that makes their base riled up is a win for them. It distracts the mush-brained base from seeing their income getting taken by billionaires or chemical companies making their tap water undrinkable while republican lawmakers line their pockets from those same chemical companies. If only the media could quit the culture war bullshit and focus on things that matter… Ahh that’d be nice, wouldn’t it?

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      The difference with Hasan is that he is unapologetic about his politics unlike the democrats. This will be positive for his growth and influence.

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      Same story here. No clue, no fucks to give…

      Still funny they’re getting their panties all bunched.

      Seriously though fuck influencer culture and fuckwit followers altogether.

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      I just want to say I appreciate you not knowing who Hasan is yet still understanding his relevancy

      Way too many people in the comments (not on this post) acting like he’s just some random streamer. Which…yeah, I guess he is. But he’s insanely influencial to a demographic who desperately need guidance. He’s on our side basically recruiting people to the cause.

      He’s operating in a space dominated by chuds. He’s showing young people there’s another way to view the world than the “us vs them” pushed by the right.

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        i suspect that the was a pre-release version of graham platner, but decided to go w being a personality rather than a politician like his uncle.

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            pike rocketed into mainstream fame out of nowhere like graham platner did and the american gov’t has a well documented history of elevating candidates who have progressive aesthetics with little-to-no progressive beliefts to prevent americans from elective progressive candidates.

            i’m positing that piker and platner were both elevated because people feel that they’re progressive, but they only have centrist platforms.

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              pike rocketed into mainstream fame out of nowhere

              No he didn’t lol. He started in the young Turks in like 2013. He’s been streaming on twitch since 2018. Yes his popularity has increased quite a bit in recent years, but it was not “out of nowhere”

              i’m positing that piker and platner were both elevated because people feel that they’re progressive, but they only have centrist platforms.

              At this point, he’s to the left of Bernie Sanders, who is to the left of most of the Democratic party. For a figure in the United States, he’s not a centrist. Especially on the subject of Palestine. If anything he’s been elevated as punching bag for centrists.

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                that’s usually true. lol

                but this doesn’t require anything beyond being a student of american history.

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                  Apparently it does. Hasan is a twitch streamer, not a politician

                  He’s also part of the “dirtbag left” which is much more like alt/actual left than centrist

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              I’m not versed enough in Piker lore to say either way but this definitely feels like a stretch. His dad is also a leftwing political commentator with similar beliefs.

              Establishment Democrats actively try to distance themselves from him, too.

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                Who is his dad? If you mean his uncle, Cenk, he’s been a reactionary for a while. He performs radicalism but he’s a dumbass at best, a grifter at worst. Hasan seems a lot better than Cenk.

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                  Oh, yeah I thought that was his dad lol

                  I was just saying he was exposed to politics at a young age and had the nepo boost going for him. I checked his wiki page and didn’t know he worked AT the young Turks

                  He began streaming on Twitch in March 2018, while working at The Young Turks, leaving the network in 2020 to focus full-time on his streaming career.

                  So even more reason to think his rise to fame isn’t suspicious. Democrats are famously bad at planning long term, I find it hard to believe they planted this seed 8 years ago

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                calling anyone in the piker clan leftwing is the stretch here since they’re liberals that only differ from democrats due their criticism of isreali zionism.

                and establishment democrats once distanced themselves from obama too – democrats are schools of fish that simply do what their neighbor is doing without much thought as they collectively swim away from whatever they perceive to be a shark atm.

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                  I don’t even follow him but I know that’s bullshit lol

                  The ONLY difference is his criticism of Israel? Really?

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      Consevative media does a really good job at insulating their base by character assassination on anyone who might change minds. I would argue it’s one of the most effective tactics that conservative media uses. They don’t have to argue the points if they consistently and uniformly just act like the target is an idiot.

      From the outside it looks ridiculous, but from within it’s all part of the information ecosystem that feeds the base their smug dopamine and keeps them coming back. Doing otherwise would require admitting fault or ignorance, which is literally physically painful to anyone raised without it. Thats what cognitive dissonance actually is.

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      Its like trump. No one cared until the democrats started being like “No hes so bad dont vote for him pleaaassseee”

      People are more attached to what their enemies hate vs what they actually want

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        Partisan politics and first-past-the-post elections inevitably lead to the dissolution of the individual will within the electorate. It was discussed as an issue when creating the US constitution hundreds of years ago.

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    Hasan is great. Really hope he wakes up soon to the DSA rejecting Marxism. He might be one of the only non-candidates that’s an insider that hasn’t lost the plot in favor of the DNC

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      Hasan was pretty good for a year but since his DSA stint it’s really gone downhill. Especially the Platner saga. Way too much compromising with the DNC. He’s close to power now and starting to water down all the rhetoric.

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        Agree, the Platner stuff was very disgusting to be honest. And it wasn’t just him.

        Also I’ve been following long enough to know that during election season he really waters himself down, basically to the point of “vote blue no matter who” without saying it and then works backwards from there. Whether it works to bring liberal voters into the fold and slowly subtly introduce them to Marxism and even softening their conditioning on communism itself, idk…

        Does it really work, like on a large scale? Again, I have no idea. It’s a little embarrassing to admit that it worked for me, kinda. I thought I was as left as you can be, a mix of “anarchist” (went to punk and metal shows growing up) and liberal (voted for democrats), and Hasan did somehow convince me to take socialism and communism seriously and led me to the Deprogram and Hakim who led me to Marxist and non-Marxist authors and that’s what really kicked it off. So I have a soft spot for the guy, I think understandably.

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          His 2024 election was pretty strong actually. He refused to endorse Kamala because she refused to pass the grand-canyon low bar of not supporting genocide (and Piker was yelled at pretty hard for it).

          He got a lot of clout and goodwill for that online. But for some mythical reason he suddenly decided to go compromise mode with the DSA and now we’ve got him supporting people who all endorse Hakeem Jeffries and the rest of the DNC genocide squad as if that will ever change anything. All under the guise of “compromising with the right to gain power”.

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      I especially like his pragmatism. Lot of that is just obvious stuff that makes sense.

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    Republicans should embrace the grift and crime. Just say “No more elections, we are a dictatorship now”. To keep their donors happy, they just have to raise taxes on lower income and allow price hiking. For the people, just allow more gambling I guess.