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poor leftists talk about poverty, labor aristocrats get uncomfortable and insist that sociological classes aren’t materialist. “all that matters is that we’re working class - we’re all in this together”
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black leftists talk about racism, whites get uncomfortable and insist that they’re not personally part of the problem. “we mustn’t allow the bourgeois to divide the proletariat along racial lines - we’re all in this together”
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female leftists talk about patriarchy, men get uncomfortable and insist that it hurts them too. “this men vs women stuff is reductive anyway - we’re all in this together”
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third world leftists talk about imperialism, americoids get uncomfortable and insist that red white and blue lives matter too. “what happened to the international working class - we’re all in this together”
you don’t have to invite yourself to every form and experience of oppression. anyone with a baby’s consciousness of intersectionality ought to be capable of admitting when they have privilege
Yes, did you not read the rest? I’d rather a white socialist than a lip service white lib lol. Was this a gotcha? I’ll just stick to my irl black armed self defense group (that also has white people in it) because this place is just too weird. I was recommended it as an alternative to reddit but it doesn’t seem much different.
All I recall is you being class reductionist, acting like intersectionality wasn’t an important part of the revolutionary struggle, and calling minority rights individualism. And don’t forget, you’re not the only minority here, you don’t speak for the rest of us.EDIT: Yeah, upon rereading, I totally misinterpreted what you said. Just got a hair trigger from the current struggle session I guess. This one’s on me, comrade. My bad.
I’m not saying I did. It’s an opinion that black people have nonetheless. Many people I know care about the economic/modern day enslavement conditions much more than the political empowerment in a capitalistic society. As you are seeing, a black identity doesn’t mean a monolithic one and I’m saying an identity like ours may not create as strong solidarity as you think. Don’t forget, you don’t speak for the rest of us either.
Tbh, I think maybe we’re speaking past each other, because these comments are something I can absolutely understand. Maybe I misunderstood your previous comments, because to me, they came off extremely class reductionist and dismissive of other marginalized people’s struggles. I’m sorry, comrade.
Oh… I’m sorry too. I think this is my fault for not articulating myself well, so please don’t apologize. After re-reading what I typed, it was more confrontational than I intended. Maybe I’m too used to reddit (I’m told you guys call it storefront. That’s awesome and so well deserved) so I haven’t gotten used to these good faith conversations. Sorry again .
No worries! I can definitely relate to not articulating myself well. It definitely takes some getting used to coming from the lib hell that is
lol. And I came in immediately with snark myself, so it’s not just on you.