cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8012296

I saw today new “merch” section below comments. I’m a premium users for a reason, I want 0 ads.

I just canceled my subscription and moved to yattee / invidious for good.

  • echo64@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    65
    ·
    1 year ago

    I feel like calling this an ad is a stretch, I get it ads suck. I hate ads, too. This is just the merch of the channel you clicked on, though. It’s fine, I don’t have it in me to care about a few images below a part of the user experience I never look at.

      • echo64@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        1 year ago

        let’s say you go to a movie theatre, they sell food in the concessions on the way in. is that an ad? or are they just selling shit and also you’re gonna go watch a movie. maybe you want popcorn. maybe you want a mug.

        if they were to play an ad roll for all the merch before the video, sure, that’s an ad. but that’s not happening, op just went to a users youtube page and saw that there is a section for the users merch.

        • gmtom@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          If they have signs up advertising the food in the theatre, then yes, of course that’s an ad.

          • echo64@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            I’ll restate what I said because you didn’t quite go for it I didn’t say they put up advertising the food, I said they sell food.

            let’s say you go to a movie theatre, they sell food in the concessions on the way in. is that an ad? or are they just selling shit and also you’re gonna go watch a movie. maybe you want popcorn. maybe you want a mug.

            • gmtom@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              If they are selling it, but not advertising it, then ni it’s not an ad.

              But if they are advertising the food in cinema, like how youtube is advertising this merch, then that is an ad.

              It’s not complicated.

              • echo64@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                So the sign above the food telling you that there is popcorn here is an ad for you? If you see anything that indicates you can buy something that’s an ad for you? Wild. That’s not the case for the rest of us but okay.

                • gmtom@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  No, if I see and advert advertising something then it’s an ad. If OP had gone to the guys merch store the listing would not be ads, but they are being advertised below the video.

                  It’s about intent, a sign at the food stall isn’t an ad because you are already there intending to buy something, but if they advertised the popcorn in the theatre itself then its an ad since you aren’t at the theatre with intent to buy food.

                  So when OP clicked the video he wanst intending to buy from the merch store so it’s an advert because its trying to convince him to go to the merch store and spend money.

    • deleted@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      As I stated in the other post, I have no problem with merch segments in the video or description.

      But the difference is taking screen real estate is not acceptable. And the cherry on top, I didn’t even subscribed to this channel.

      If I want to support a creator, I’ll spend time to find them on pateron or find their merch. But shoving that in my face in every video is different.

      • echo64@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        so you are accepting of the entire screen being a merch plug if it’s a video segment, of if it’s in the description which either does indeed take up screen real estate, or you are only accepting because you don’t look at descriptions. but you aren’t accepting of merch in a small section that used to be basically nothing?

        i just don’t follow your logic, it just sounds like you saw something new and immediately reacted without thinking it through.

        if this was an actual ad, people would be with you on this. but it just isn’t. it’s some merch that the youtuber sells. fuck them for trying to make a living right? they can only make a living if they actively hide any way that they could make a living.

  • Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    23
    ·
    1 year ago

    I hate ads with my whole heart because it doesn’t actually support the creators but come on man merch is directly supporting the creators. Most of them prefer if you support them through that even LTT says they got more support from merch.

  • auf@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    1 year ago

    That’s fine because it’s not toxic. Ads randomly show up between videos are tend to be harmful, so that should not be seen.

  • Companion1666@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    This is just an merch ad from your subscribed channel. I rather see these ads than some random ad pops up every 2-5mins.

    • gmtom@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      The point is he pays for an “ad free” version, but still gets these ads

  • Damaskox@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    Starts to seem to me that you’d get frustration more than anything else out of whatever you try to do to help or please or go along with rules of a digital/social platform company…

    • deleted@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      No, I genuinely liked features that others hated such as AI summary. Do whatever you want but gimme that disable option.

      YouTube has done many good things and I see their platform is a god sent at least for me. But ads is where I draw the line.

      I feel they’re planning to reduce creators share of revenue and compensate them with promoting their merch.

      • Damaskox@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah I wouldn’t argue against all the things YouTube has made possible to, benefitted and offered others. I have used YouTube actively too.
        There’s always good and bad to everything.